Why are the tourneys at RB and RV linked?

[ahtram88]

Hello ....Thank you for taking the time to answer my question...

I noticed that the new tournaments at Riverbelle and Royal Vegas are linked.
If you join a particular tourney at one casino, the other casino will inform you that you are all ready registered.

I have no complaint with this by the way. I just thought that Riverbelle and Royal Vegas are owned by two different companies.

Thank you again for your time.

Martha/ahtram88

[belgamo]

hi Martha, I will reply to you here too.

If I understand this correctly, So this means bigger pools of players but NO INCREASE in prizes. Oh, this could really piss off alot of people. I already don't like the idea. I mean if you are paying to enter a tourney and all of sudden you now have people with River belle accounts that don't have Royal vegas accounts , the pool of players increases, the rebuy fees add up, yet the payouts remains the same? Yeah, who's going to make a killing off this . They should have each casino keep seperate tourneys!!!!!!!! Maybe start the tourneys at the same time, but keep the money pools seperate !!!!
Am I correct in my logic?

[cmr29sun]

The tourney info shows the combined total number of people already entered. It also gives a minimum and max number that can enter. When you enter just know you maybe going up againist the max number of entries. Doesn't mater if 2 are playing from royal and 98 are playing from another casino or even 6 different places. Entry fee including number of rebuys + number of entrants + prize payout structure then just decide if it's worth joining. I personally don't care for rebuy tournements. It gets more complicated. Then it's a mater of figuring if it is worth investing more money based on how well your doing. I'm assuming that not all the tournements pools are made up of entries from two different casino groups. Like the The Great Escape promo Fortune Lounge is running I would think is just Royal Vegas. Which I have to say I am one of the sixty finalist. I have to keep checking the winners wall to make sure my name is still there casue I can hardly believe it.

BTW Seems like it's taking forever for tourney scedule to show up at Royal Veags anyway. Is just me ?

cmr29sun

[ahtram88]

Thank you cmr29sun and Belgamo for answering my post.

Why are two casino's ...persumably owned by different companies 'in cahoots' as my father would say??? For those of you that don't recognize the term...(Questionable collaboration; secret partnership......).

They are now in some way linked together; sharing information with each other in real time. Information about us. Has anyone ever heard of Casino's from different owners joining up like this. I know casino's have always exchange information on players that may be defrauding casino's.

When I signed up with Riverbelle for the tournaments there....I received an email from "activation@microgaming.com" to me
that used terms like:

Click the Verify Alias link to verify your Alias using our secure server. (I wasn't ask what alias I wanted...I was given the one I was using at Royal Vegas)


If you can't read it above:

Welcome to the Multi-Player Network

Your Alias is used to identify you when playing in a Microgaming Casino.

You need to verify your Alias if you play at a new Microgaming Casino.

I think this is telling us Microgaming is forming a new Group ...????

Am I off base here?

ahtram88
Note: tookaotik (member of NDRCG Forum)pointed this out to me and I did not get where he was going at first...

[cmr29sun]

It's not a secret partnership. They joined a network headed by microgaming. One of the benefits of them joining my guess is being able to offer tournaments with big prizes in hopes of attracting more players. Maybe getting the capability to run tournaments microgaming required them to join the network. It all equals cash in the end. Fortune is running a big tournament promo which I assume is them alone. If you can run a big tourney without needing to pool players and share cost then why join at all I wonder. As for the information I am definitely no software expert casino or otherwise but they are sharing with microgaming not necessarily with the other casinos that form the network. At least I think.. maybe... Some help I am. Money is the benefit of all involved but you didn't need me to tell you that.

cmr29sun

[dominique]

It's not a secret partnership. They joined a network headed by microgaming.

That's what I hear. Really it makes sense, offers better pots, more players and therefor more tournies, more of everything.

[liquidsoap]

Its probally just like prima poker, one alias throughout.
All the MG poker sites are linked so if I am on Royal Vegas, I can play you on Riverbelle.

[vinylweatherman]

I have been playing these for a while, and at the time I saw this about there being one alias over the whole MG multiplayer network. The plan is also to expand the number of games available from the present two.

I have not noticed RiverBelle having these, it's not as though they actually told their players!

It can be hard to determine if a tournament is only at a particular casino, or over the entire network unless you try to register.

My main concern is that this could be a huge rip-off. Take the slots tournaments, if every player uses their buy-ins, the income is much greater than the prize pool, and thus gives a far worse deal than the 95% payout expected from the slot as a whole. Sometimes it is best to enter only the paid for tournaments, as far fewer players enter, but the saving is only a fraction, as even the free ones have subsequent buy-ins.

The maths is a little complicated, but it should be possible to estimate whether the casinos are earning more than the appropriate HE of 5% through tournaments.
Despite this, they are a lot of fun, and I would hope casinos would not use them as a vehicle to sneakily gain extra HE over the already high 5% they have on slots.



I now find the tournaments are simply not working, I click on "join" and nothing happens, and I know this is not what is supposed to happen as I have played these before. This comes after a two day spell of no tournaments being available. Some players have managed to enter, so this must be an intermittent problem.

[mrracetrack]

I now find the tournaments are simply not working, I click on "join" and nothing happens, and I know this is not what is supposed to happen as I have played these before. This comes after a two day spell of no tournaments being available. Some players have managed to enter, so this must be an intermittent problem.

I've had exactly the same problem... for the past 4 days now.

This problem seems to "go away" late evening/after midnight (edt)

I hope they can fix this glitch soon... it's really annoying to enter a tourny... and go to play it 5 minutes prior to the start... and you can't get back in...

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by mrracetrack

I've had exactly the same problem... for the past 4 days now.

This problem seems to "go away" late evening/after midnight (edt)

I hope they can fix this glitch soon... it's really annoying to enter a tourny... and go to play it 5 minutes prior to the start... and you can't get back in...

Funnily enough, I managed to get in and play late evening, and have noticed the problem of no tournaments being shown often clears late evening, but is back again later.
I have managed to force a register alias from RiverBelle (by clicking on a tournament and getting the registration screen up). I wonder if the addition of RiverBelle screwed up something and caused problems at RV.