US Members Only: Poll II about the UIGEA (Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act)

**NoMouthToScream** · 22nd February 2007, 01:07 PM

Yes, although I only play at the places where I still have funds leftover. Depositing is not even an option for me anymore. Once these funds go bye bye, and nothing changes, then it's probably good bye forever to online gambling.

**lojo** · 22nd February 2007, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by REOdeathwagon

On the sauce again lojo.

I try to stay calm. It's obvious I drinks abit. Most of my posts can be filtered by time... much after 3am MST lojo be drunk, much after 7am lojo be awake

I'm sure my credibility suffers no more than my game

**REOdeathwagon** · 22nd February 2007, 07:40 PM

Gawd lojo, that reply was funny as hell. I'm still laughing.

Quote - " Imagine, the person that doesn't drink. He / she wakes up in the morning and knows - this is as good as I am going to feel all day " - Unquote

**Westland Bowl** · 22nd February 2007, 08:23 PM

The poll percentages would be more accurate if the non-US players ("just want to see the poll results") were not included in the calculations. After 80 votes, the top three "Yes, definitely..." combined is 65%. Without the non-US voters, it would be 80%!!

**BingoT** · 22nd February 2007, 08:23 PM

It sucks how the US Government runs our lives.
We pay Alot in taxes and we get &%$# on.
But we are all to blame we put them @'s into office.
We will always find away to play if we have too.
I say this year have no one vote for anyone because your only going to put an @ in there anyways.

**Rettahs** · 22nd February 2007, 10:31 PM

After reading the replies here I do have to add one thing that I noticed changed in the way I play. Ever since all the problems started I just have considered any money I had left out there pretty much worthless and treated it as play money since I wasn't sure if I would ever be able to get it back into my bank account so I started playing fast and loose with it. Sort of like how you play when you fire up the Guest mode and use the play money. Since Jan 16th my bankroll has increased not decreased with a few lucky hits playing like an idiot lol.

**kirby** · 22nd February 2007, 10:36 PM

I took my small funds out before Neteller folded it's US customers. Don't really trust any of the schemes that have come onboard since then. All I can do now is play BJ freerolls or "guest" games. Bummer

**ballen** · 22nd February 2007, 11:24 PM

I can no longer play at my favorite casinos. I switched to a casino called Grand Prive - that's the parent company name and the casino is Grand Bay. They were supposed to have really quick withdrawals and everything was supposed to be honky dorey.......not so. I didn't realize that since I could no longer use Neteller for depositing, that I couldn't use them for withdrawals either. I made my deposit with my debit card, comes directly out of my checking account. I assumed they would deposit my withdrawal the same way. However, it didn't come and it didn't come so I checked my neteller account and thought maybe they put it there. Sure enough the casino tried to make a deposit to my neteller account and neteller refused it! What's up with that??? I'm still waiting for the money and want them to just deposit it back the same way I made a deposit. No word yet. If this doesn't go through, looks like I won't be playing online any more at all.........

Has anyone else tried to make a withdrawal through GrandBay? They also have Jupiter casino and Road House, I believe.
Thanks,
Billie

**Scounselor** · 23rd February 2007, 05:18 AM

Come on US gamblers! Stop being so negative! True, the UIGEA has put a serious cramp in the virtual leg of our deposits and withdrawals. But I have FAITH that where there's a WILL there will always be a WAY.

Then again, it definitely helps to be a small-time bettor, like me, who only gambles occasionally and for "Entertainment Purposes Only".

(What I'm saying is that I'm so used to loosing, that the least of my worries is how to effect a withdrawal, on the slim chance I'm going to accumulate enough money in my casino account to warrant a withdrawal in the first place. Sheesh! What a run on sentance!)

I admire ya'all who can make a living (or even a profit for that matter) from gambling. I'd love to give up my day job if I could be like you (all). So for "all'ya'all" professional gamblers out there, I say: I feel your pain.

That being said, I think US players should take heart! Look up! (Give us Liberty or give us Death!)

I didn't vote for President Bush.

But every time I've voted I've had to ask myself: Which candidate is the lessor of the two evils?

To my 'rekoning we don't really have choices here in the New Nited States anymore.

I step into a voting booth and feel like all my choices have already been made for me.

I'm writing in Bryan for President in 2008.

Thanks for listening. I'll get down from the Soap Box now.

Oh, one last thing. I reside in what the locals refer to as "The Illustrious State of Alabama". But, I'm just passing through. I'm really from Chicago. And yes, Alabama is alot like a Third World country. The South MAY rise again, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

**Mousey** · 23rd February 2007, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Scounselor

Come on US gamblers! Stop being so negative! True, the UIGEA has put a serious cramp in the virtual leg of our deposits and withdrawals. But I have FAITH that where there's a WILL there will always be a WAY.
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Oh, one last thing. I reside in what the locals refer to as "The Illustrious State of Alabama". But, I'm just passing through. I'm really from Chicago. And yes, Alabama is alot like a Third World country. The South MAY rise again, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

Begging your pardon counselor, but this ain't no Sunday camp meetin' and faith has little to do with the facts.

The US DoJ is riding roughshod over legitimate foreign businesses, confiscating millions and millions of their (and our) dollars. NETeller along with foreign and domestic banks seem to have rolled over and handed the DoJ all documents requested, casinos and their processors are running out of ways to pay players, players are running out of ways to deposit. The best of the best casinos are either out of the US market entirely, or having problems with our deposits/withdrawals and may dump us soon -- that will leave the independent, and all too often shady casinos and processors who are positively salivating over all these displaced US gamblers. Unfortunately, the more disreputable places will always find a way to take our money. I fear we're going to see a great rise in the numbers of complaints.

We do all hope for a 'revival', but I'm not betting on it -- at least not anytime soon.

I live down south, too. Land of the Free and Home of the Redneck. Born here, lived here most of my life. Live in a 'dry' county. Where voters come out in record numbers to vote against sinful things like gambling and drinking and lotteries. But you find some of those same righteous voters at the state line Golden Gallon carrying out an armload of beer and a handful of lottery tickets and scratchers, or you may bump into them at the casinos in Tunica or Pearl River or Biloxi.

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Bryan, thank you for this poll. The numbers have changed a great deal from the first poll. Very interesting.