Money Transfer Systems for US Residents

**RobWin** · 18th January 2007, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by dominique

I hear click2pay is best now.

Payspark is undergoing some changes, including a name change and will be much better soon.
Not all casinos withdraw through click2pay yet, but is being implemented. ( they should have thought ahead, geez!!!!)

I wouldn't worry about withdrawals, although they will take longer. The LAST thing casinos want now is to piss you off by not paying out, they are working their butts off making it fast and easy again.

Unbelievable they got caught off guard, they thought they had time til the IGUEA took effect.

Smart move by the DOJ.

Dom, how will they (Payspark) be much better soon ? By changing their name ?

**RobWin** · 18th January 2007, 10:33 PM

It's becoming very apparent that the last great viable hope for US players to deposit at online casinos will either be Western Union or by simply mailing a Check !

Jeeze.......

**Mousey** · 19th January 2007, 02:08 AM

I just made an attempt to sign up at Click2Pay. Guess their server is overwhelmed. I filled in the first page of the registration form, clicked 'continue', it said 'verifying data' then 'page cannot be displayed'. Just great. Refreshed and it brought up the original blank form. So if I go and do it all again do they think I'm trying to make two accounts? Did any of the info process? Will they contact me? Do I need to contact them?

Screw it. I'm too tired and angry to puck with this chit tonight anyway.

**winbig** · 19th January 2007, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Mousey

I just made an attempt to sign up at Click2Pay. Guess their server is overwhelmed. I filled in the first page of the registration form, clicked 'continue', it said 'verifying data' then 'page cannot be displayed'. Just great. Refreshed and it brought up the original blank form. So if I go and do it all again do they think I'm trying to make two accounts? Did any of the info process? Will they contact me? Do I need to contact them?

Screw it. I'm too tired and angry to puck with this chit tonight anyway.

If you didn't get to the page where it asked for your bank information, the original account was not created, and you can start over fresh without worries.

**dominique** · 19th January 2007, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by RobWin

Dom, how will they (Payspark) be much better soon ? By changing their name ?

No I understand that they are a work in progress and were trying to be ready when the UIGEA deadline came, but were taken by surprise and aren't ready yet.

Just talk I picked up...

**RobWin** · 19th January 2007, 02:59 AM

Found this posted on main page over at Central Coin !

We are sorry to inform you that the CentralCoin service is currently not operational. We will post further information on this website in due course (including information relating to withdrawing or using your funds). We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Whilst we are unable to provide the CentralCoin service, please contact your merchant for other deposit options.

**RobWin** · 19th January 2007, 03:09 AM

Seems as though another blockage is occuring too. I just tried to register my bank account over at EcoCard and it came back up with this message:

# Transaction ID Result code Description
1 50000000000020089 11106 Rejected by ACH External Service

**misty113** · 19th January 2007, 05:28 AM

I find this very interesting. Just when our Government stops US players from gambling online and makes sure our US banks cannot get a piece of the action, then this article hits. Amazing how the Corporations can jump in on online gambling while our idiot Government stops its citizens in their tracks for online gambling.

I would think the US banks would be spitting fire seeing the other banks located outside of the US can reap those billions of dollars from the online gamblers. No wonder LV Hilton wants a piece of that with their own bank in the UK reaping the rewards.

LV Sands to Launch Online Casino

Las Vegas Sands Corp. today announced plans to enter the online casino and poker market, with a product initially aimed exclusively at players in the UK.

The project will be a joint venture between the owner of the Venetian, Sands, Palazzo, and Paiza brands and Cantor Gaming, which is already in partnership with Sands Corp. via its deal with the Venetian to be the first casino to offer mobile gaming devices in Nevada.

The site is expected to be launched in the second quarter of 2007 and offer all the most popular casino games, including blackjack, roulette, baccarat, video poker, slots, and online poker, and will offer customer age and location verification, online payment processing, and customer service.

The project won't be the first time that a US land-based gaming company has dipped a toe into European waters: Previous attempts by MGM Mirage and the Hard Rock to launch online casinos across the pond proved unsuccessful, as did a similar foray by Playboy magazine. But back then online gambling was not at peek levels as it has been in the past few years esp. with online Poker sites and the ever growing Poker tourney's.

We'll await future developments of the Sands' project with interest.

**tim5ny** · 19th January 2007, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Probably the best thing to do is take a walk outside and get some fresh air.

When you come back, here are some cool games here you can play for free:
http://www.videopoker.com/
http://www.ledgaming.com/LED_Home/html/index.shtml

Great idea! Just more reasons for U.S. residents NOT to get paid if they win anyway! There's always going to be Western Union for depositing because the money's sent to an individual person and the names change constantly to keep WU from getting suspicious, but who wants to gamble twice with their hard earned money? Grind it out at a casino, and then grind it out again wondering if your money will get to you. No thanks!

**lots0** · 19th January 2007, 06:58 PM

I find this very interesting. Just when our Government stops US players from gambling online and makes sure our US banks cannot get a piece of the action, then this article hits. Amazing how the Corporations can jump in on online gambling while our idiot Government stops its citizens in their tracks for online gambling.

Who do you think funded (bribed) Senator Frist, Kyle and the others in their anti-gambling campaine? Harras and the Sands that's who!

This whole anti-online gambling thing in the US was about cutting off access to online casinos from outside the US and clearing out the competition so the big US companies could move in to the US market without haveing to fight for market share. A bunch of us have been saying this all along.

The US casino companies could not compeate with the existing online casino companies, so the existing companies had to be driven out of business or just driven out of the US Market.

This whole thing has been a perfect example of the US Government and big business working to make each other richer and cut out everyone else.

This all about BIG money and who is going to make it... The Sands, Harras and the US DOJ says its going to be the US companies and not a few small time upstart companys from outside the US.

In about a year or so most everyone in the US will be able to play online legally at US based casinos and you'll be able to use any of your credit cards at those US based casinos... mark my words...

What I wonder about is how the lawyers for the government feel about being used to screw over the American people and as a tool to make more money for US Casinos.