Definately not random!

[Rusty]

Sudden never ending downturns, have you suffered them?
OK I know I know, I have banged on about this before but check this out;
I have made 22 straight deposits at this particular Casino and no withdrawals although I have been infront briefly on just a few occasions.
My problem is that whenever I actually hit anything and get infront I always decide to play another slot for a while untill I have got my fix with the intension of cashing out but this is what always happens....
I start to play and can not hit a thing and so get sucked in and the pattern is exactly the same every single time.

I played GIFT WRAP 600 spins, PAYOUT 67%
followed by MAD HATTERS 400 spins, PAYOUT 65%


Now I accept you are bound to lose if you continue to play but what I do'nt accept is that something that is supposed to be random can be predicted 100% (ie once the run begins it continues until I am bust)

One more thought a slot could genuinely have a 96% payout by paying you nothing untill you are nearly bust and then keeping you around the same level for a long period of time.

*note the feature symbol on real 1 appearing less than 1 in 80 spins for first 400 spins, random?

I promise I will never whine about this again but any thoughts?

[winbig]

GD MULTIPLE POSTS. WTF?

I have never had this problem before when editing my posts. Why all of a sudden is it making a 2nd post when I edit it now?

[winbig]

My problem is that whenever I actually hit anything and get infront I always decide to play another slot for a while

although I have been infront briefly on just a few occasions.

1: you're chasing your losses at that particular casino.
2: If you think that casino is unfair, why continue to deposit there? (See #1)
3: Seems to me you're looking to get back all of your losses in one shot, as opposed to a little bit stretched across multiple sessions (again, See #1)

I start to play and can not hit a thing and so get sucked in and the pattern is exactly the same every single time.

That's why they call it gambling. Huge winning sessions are far and inbetween, so of course you're going to run into this same "pattern" many many many more times than you'll see an amazing winning session. That's why you need to set your sights lower on what amount you're going to cash out for. Instead of looking for a $300+ hit, settle for $100...or even $50 a shot.

[mtx]

It's true. Slots are rigged.

[winbig]

Sorry, but the "Slots|Casino|Blackjack|All online casinos are rigged" card has been played so many times it isn't funny. What gets me is the ones that keep claiming it's all rigged, but yet keep playing.

How about we *not* turn this into another "ITS RIGGED!" thread?

[mtx]

Actually I'm new here, but I'm starting to see how slots can ruin one's bankroll.

I recently tried out slots for the first time and boy it was a pile of BS. Off the bat, I hit a nice win for $100 while betting max lines/max coins/minimum coin size. I then increase the coin size and proceed to lose the $100 profit in a matter of minutes. As soon as I lower the coin size back to minimum, I hit Bonus Rounds and Free Spins. Of course, during the Free Spin rounds, I hit nothing substancial, and come out with 40-50x bet size. After that, I lose everything.

So for me, I will most likely never play slots again unless there is some lucrative bonus waiting for me. Because even with a 200% 20x bonus, I still manage to make negative profit. I don't know how many spins you need to make your money back, but I am not going down this road. I'll stick with BJ and all the other low HA games.

Chasing the big win is just like chasing the lottery jackpot.

Truly 1 in 14 million.

[winbig]

Actually I'm new here, but I'm starting to see how slots can ruin one's bankroll.

I recently tried out slots for the first time and boy it was a pile of BS. Off the bat, I hit a nice win for $100 while betting max lines/max coins/minimum coin size. I then increase the coin size and proceed to lose the $100 profit in a matter of minutes. As soon as I lower the coin size back to minimum, I hit Bonus Rounds and Free Spins. Of course, during the Free Spin rounds, I hit nothing substancial, and come out with 40-50x bet size. After that, I lose everything.

So for me, I will most likely never play slots again unless there is some lucrative bonus waiting for me. Because even with a 200% 20x bonus, I still manage to make negative profit. I don't know how many spins you need to make your money back, but I am not going down this road. I'll stick with BJ and all the other low HA games.

Chasing the big win is just like chasing the lottery jackpot.

Truly 1 in 14 million.

You're bound to lose managing a bankroll like you did in that session...

[EasyRhino]

any thoughts?

Slots are the game with the highest house edge (well, except maybe Keno). Not only that, but that edge is characterized by frequent losing sessions punctuated by brief wins (not as erratic as video poker maybe, but erratic).

In other words, losing is a slot's natural state.

You mention playing just a little more, and losing wins. That's what everyone does. Let's face it, gamblers extending their sessions longer than planned is how casinos make more money.

Any time you decide to cashout, for any reason (win or loss), will save money over the long term vs. playing longer.

I'll admit that sometimes I've played for "revenge" against a particular shop. It never works. Just play a game you want to play, and be religious about only spending what you want to spend.

[Macgyver]

Slots are the game with the highest house edge (well, except maybe Keno). Not only that, but that edge is characterized by frequent losing sessions punctuated by brief wins (not as erratic as video poker maybe, but erratic).

In other words, losing is a slot's natural state.

Can we make that last sentence a post of its own and pin it somewhere everyone will see it?

I get so tired sometimes of seeing people say "slots are rigged" or "did the casino lower its payout percentage?" just because they're losing at a game that has one of the highest house advantages.

You play the game, expect the loss ... any win on slots, I don't care how big or small, is just gravy on the biscuit.

[1819]

1: you're chasing your losses at that particular casino.
2: If you think that casino is unfair, why continue to deposit there? (See #1)
3: Seems to me you're looking to get back all of your losses in one shot, as opposed to a little bit stretched across multiple sessions (again, See #1)



That's why they call it gambling. Huge winning sessions are far and inbetween, so of course you're going to run into this same "pattern" many many many more times than you'll see an amazing winning session. That's why you need to set your sights lower on what amount you're going to cash out for. Instead of looking for a $300+ hit, settle for $100...or even $50 a shot.

correct! at a brick and morter a few years back, i hit 3, yes 3 royals in about 4 hours. then didnt hit another for almost 2 years playing the same amount of time there every week.