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Old 5th November 2006, 07:35 PM
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Lightbulb Online Casino with the Most Winners

I am curious to know which online casino has the greatest number of winners on a daily basis.

I'm not talking about monthly percentage payouts. Websino ABC could have a 99.9% payout rate, with 3 big winners over the entire month. On the flip side, Websino XYZ could have a 95% payout rate, with 20 winners everyday. Websino XYZ is the one Im interested in identifying.

For the purpose of this thread, lets consider a winner as someone cashing out in the 4 digits, assuming their deposit was not in the 4 digits.

My search for the online casino with the greatest number of winners led me to the River Belle Casinos (RiverBelle, JackpotCity, LuckyNugget). Their 'Winners List' shows, on average, 20 winners a day! However, I could be completely wrong by assuming that just because a Casino doesnt have a winners list as extensive as the RiverBelle Group, that they dont have just as many daily winners. Perhaps some Casinos are only interested in posting their Big Winners, wins in the 5 or more digits.

So?.....Got Winners? Let me know. Im Starving for a Win!

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Old 5th November 2006, 09:13 PM
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Is this data even readily available? Perhaps Im looking for information that will never be found. Any thoughts?
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Do you mean jackpot winners ? Or people that are cashing out large amounts ? People who are winning thousands on one spin ?
I don't take winners lists that seriously as a big win to me might not be alot to someone else .
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Hi Silkprint,

Good point...Winnings, being Big or Small will always be relative.

You asked, "Do you mean jackpot winners ? Or people that are cashing out large amounts ? People who are winning thousands on one spin ?"

I mean all of that.

My assumption is that if a casino has winners, either from hitting huge progressives or those players cashing out 'large amounts' relative to their deposit,..that they would post it for people to see... to entice potential players. But then again, like I mentioned before, perhaps my assumption is completely off track.

I understand how you 'don't take winners lists that seriously.' But how about those casinos that dont have a winners list?

I guess what I was hoping to identify was the casino whose payout percentage, as posted, is a reflection of many daily winners as oppose to a few large wins periodically. Sorry if Im not explaining myself clearly.

Regardless, thanks for your thoughts.
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Winners

The size of the wins is relative. All the games pay a multiple of the line, spin, deal, or table bet. This means that a win of $1000 from a $1 stake, which probably would not make it into the winners list, is far bigger (relatively) than a win of $10,000 playing at, say, $45 a spin on something like Thunderstruck (which would get a listing in winners lists).

All winners lists are payouts from individual games, and does not reflect the player's overall position that session.

I have posted many biggish hits from Golden Reef this week, I am certainly well up, but not as much as if you simply added up all the individual payouts as I have found a few cold games as well. Worth noting is that after my 5 scatters at Spring Break, hit after raising my bet after being dealt pat 4OK TWICE in a session of VP, I raised bets over all the games, probably 4x my usual, more at times - I got lucky, I did this just at the right time. I could have been unlucky, and lost most of it, and the only listing I would have on the winners list would be the 5K from Spring Break, making it look like I had won that much.

The only way you are going to find out how much players manage to cash out from their wins is to ask at the forums. Casinos will not go into this much detail due to their player confidentiality rules. Most casinos have a term that allows the use of First Name and initial to publish big payouts. Occasionally they will want more, such as when I won the world cup trip. I had to agree to allow a potted journal of the trip to be published as well as a photo (at least I got to take and choose it!). Casinos use winners list to make it look like they are a good place to play, they would be less inclined to publish a list that might show 95% of their players are down overall.
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It is sort of like The Gambling magazine I received this month. Every casino had a model with the largest breasts as their "front man". Will that entice you to play that casino? One ad said "grab some of this".

So if you see names like M.H. or L. S. winning $3,619 and $12,787 is that for real? I know those boobs weren't!
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What was I going to say before I was distracted by the boobs?

Oh, that's right.

The "win rate" can be roughly defined as a bogus formula:

House Edge x Distributions of Winnings x number of dollars wagered per day.

Obviously, if a casino has more people playing more often, more people are going to hit, in aggregate.

Now, let's say you have two basic slot machines, they both have the same payout table, but one is just looser. It's house edge will be smaller, and it will also have more "winners" than the tighter machine.

However, imagine one casino with all blackjack players, and one that's all slot players. The blackjack casino is going to have more people leave with more money than they started (because of the house edge), but the wins are not going to be as big as the big as the slots casino.

So, in summary, I don't think it really matters. Payout tables and game choice are the more important decision.
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What is your take on video poker which I love! I just found a casino through Simmo's site, Nostalgia, where you can play 4 hands for less than the standard $5.00. It allows you to set it as low as $.01 if my memory serves. I set it at $.25 so I was playing a $1.00 bet for the 4 hands. It is something I really enjoy playing.

I have seen some nice winner screenshots from video poker. Does anyone have any stats on vp?

Thanks!
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"Casino" and "Winners" are contradictory terms. There is no association between the two. If you drew up a graph citing the career of a gambler, it would show a steady and ever increasing decline from its original starting point, with a few upward blips along the way to indicate the occassional "wins" . If you're in it long enough, you'll see what I mean.
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"Casino" and "Winners" are contradictory terms. There is no association between the two. If you drew up a graph citing the career of a gambler, it would show a steady and ever increasing decline from its original starting point, with a few upward blips along the way to indicate the occassional "wins" . If you're in it long enough, you'll see what I mean.
That statement is SO true.

I need to print that off and stick it to my debit card when I next go out to the casino for the evening.

And it needs to be made into a desktop background. I think you could patent that and make millions. And if you don't make millions at least you could sleep well knowing you are saving us punters millions.
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