Opportunity Knocks

[okapoka]

Considering the amount of money involved, creative solutions to the new U.S. online gambling regulations are sure to appear.

I don't expect it will be long before U.S. citizens again have access to their favorite online gambling establishments.

How?

Well, it will probably be a combination of things.

For instance, U.S. users can use vpn services such as relakks.com to get offshore ip addresses. The casinos will then not see the user as coming from the U.S. at all. These things are cheap and easy to setup for users.

Also, perhaps, offshore services will be created that provide offshore mailing address, email address, phone number and other necessary contact points.

Perhaps also some sort of proxy banking entity will arise. So for instance, you write a check to this entity, and they take their fee and then deposit the rest into your offshore neteller account.

Now this all seems like a lot of work, perhaps too much for the average partypoker fish, but perhaps companies will arise to handle all of the above simply and easily for players. It might be as easy as filling out a web form registration, mailing off a check and paying a reasonable monthly fee (what would be reasonable for such services maybe $50 to $200 per month?)

If this is not feasible, maybe some country (perhaps one of the ones that had a big stake in online gambling) will change their citizenship laws to allow instant online "dual" citizenship to any U.S. citizen, with bank account, mailing address and ip services provided. Something like "http://www.uslawfirm.com/" taken to the next level.

What do you guys think about such possibilities?

[RobWin]

Considering the amount of money involved, creative solutions to the new U.S. online gambling regulations are sure to appear.

I don't expect it will be long before U.S. citizens again have access to their favorite online gambling establishments.

How?

Well, it will probably be a combination of things.

For instance, U.S. users can use vpn services such as relakks.com to get offshore ip addresses. The casinos will then not see the user as coming from the U.S. at all. These things are cheap and easy to setup for users.

Also, perhaps, offshore services will be created that provide offshore mailing address, email address, phone number and other necessary contact points.

Perhaps also some sort of proxy banking entity will arise. So for instance, you write a check to this entity, and they take their fee and then deposit the rest into your offshore neteller account.

Now this all seems like a lot of work, perhaps too much for the average partypoker fish, but perhaps companies will arise to handle all of the above simply and easily for players. It might be as easy as filling out a web form registration, mailing off a check and paying a reasonable monthly fee (what would be reasonable for such services maybe $50 to $200 per month?)

If this is not feasible, maybe some country (perhaps one of the ones that had a big stake in online gambling) will change their citizenship laws to allow instant online "dual" citizenship to any U.S. citizen, with bank account, mailing address and ip services provided. Something like "http://www.uslawfirm.com/" taken to the next level.

What do you guys think about such possibilities?

Interesting....

[btbt]

Considering the amount of money involved, creative solutions to the new U.S. online gambling regulations are sure to appear.

I don't expect it will be long before U.S. citizens again have access to their favorite online gambling establishments.

How?

Well, it will probably be a combination of things.

For instance, U.S. users can use vpn services such as relakks.com to get offshore ip addresses. The casinos will then not see the user as coming from the U.S. at all. These things are cheap and easy to setup for users.

Also, perhaps, offshore services will be created that provide offshore mailing address, email address, phone number and other necessary contact points.

Perhaps also some sort of proxy banking entity will arise. So for instance, you write a check to this entity, and they take their fee and then deposit the rest into your offshore neteller account.

Now this all seems like a lot of work, perhaps too much for the average partypoker fish, but perhaps companies will arise to handle all of the above simply and easily for players. It might be as easy as filling out a web form registration, mailing off a check and paying a reasonable monthly fee (what would be reasonable for such services maybe $50 to $200 per month?)

If this is not feasible, maybe some country (perhaps one of the ones that had a big stake in online gambling) will change their citizenship laws to allow instant online "dual" citizenship to any U.S. citizen, with bank account, mailing address and ip services provided. Something like "http://www.uslawfirm.com/" taken to the next level.

What do you guys think about such possibilities?

It appears that hard checks is the game now!

Thanks,
RULucky.net

[Simmo!]

Inevitable that "intermediaries" will spring up over time IMO. However the problem is that not all of these will necessarily be scrupulous. The half-baked law that has gone through leaves US residents more open to dodgy operators than ever. In my opinion, an industry that has been doing fairly well at making itself cleaner has just been put back 5 years by these laws to the potential detriment of the safety of American gamblers.

The irony is that in the rush to pass *any* form of law through, supposedly introduced to protect the public (yes, yes I know we know the real reasons) is in danger of doing the exact opposite.

If HR4411 goes through, it wouldn't surprise me over the coming months and years if we see Intermediaries, anonymizers, new payment processors, offshore satellite ISPs, a severe reduction in reputable operators in the USA, dodgy new operators springing up and other action intended to try and grab a portion of a huge "underground" market. The only real beneficiaries of prohibition are criminal elements and politicians, and even the latter is probably is merely a short-term advantage. This is why I think once certain politicians have made their mark and got what they wanted (ie: recognition and votes), the only way forward is regulation. It may take years, far more people will have been hurt than helped in the meantime, but it's more beneficial all round as I'm sure people will come to realise.

[okapoka]

Inevitable that "intermediaries" will spring up over time IMO. However the problem is that not all of these will necessarily be scrupulous. The half-baked law that has gone through leaves US residents more open to dodgy operators than ever.

Agreed.

That's why the existence of sites such as Casinomeister is more important than ever.

With the help of such watchdogs, the ethical and honest intermediaries, ie "the cream", will rise to the top and the industry will move forward again.

[Slotster!]

With the help of such watchdogs, the ethical and honest intermediaries, ie "the cream", will rise to the top and the industry will move forward again.

There is the alternative analogy however - "shit floats"... I agree with Simmo, an influx of less than reputable outfits can only be a bad thing all round. Agreed however that Casinomeister could become more important than EVER!