Casinos not taking US players.

[amatrine]

I got an email today from purple lounge, that they are no longer taking
US players or affililates because of the unlcarity of the US laws.

That is the second one I got today from two diffrent casinos.

I hope this does not turn into a bandwagon, and soon we will no be able to play at all.

It seems like it is heading that way. With banks restricting certain ewallets,
and now cainos pulling out of the US.

This makes me so angry!!

Ama

[chuchu59]

[QUOTE=amatrine;121133]I got an email today from purple lounge, that they are no longer taking
US players or affililates because of the unlcarity of the US laws.

That is the second one I got today from two diffrent casinos.

I hope this does not turn into a bandwagon, and soon we will no be able to play at all.

It seems like it is heading that way. With banks restricting certain ewallets,
and now cainos pulling out of the US.

This makes me so angry!!

Ama[/QUOTE

Hopefully, this is only a temporary stance and that they are only being cautious. The US is a big market and the loss of these players is bound to affect the whole industry.

[amatrine]

I agree. It almost seems as if they are taking the back door to outlawing it.

They get the financial insitutions afraid, and the casino owners afraid,
the work is done for them. Then they do not have to tie thier name into
the controversy of passing a law, but they still get the effect they want.

Mabey Im a little paranoid about it, but it just seems to be what is happening.

Ama

[TheBloke]

Nearly all the casinos who have opted out so far are based primarily in other markets. There have been a couple of Asian-based groups, and a couple from the UK and Europe.

Any group that has a strong or majority US customer base will not take this step unless they absolutely have to. At most they'll just order their execs to stay out of the US.

[The Watchdog]

I have a couple of theories why a company would not allow US customers.

1) They are established for serveral years on europe and their customer data base is based by only 20% or less US customers and is worth not taking their business due to the risk of problems that your operation might face.

****** Never the less, as a Casino Manager, i would never say no to $1***

2) They have the wrong idea about the US policies. If you are operating outside the US there is no way you can get in trouble. Getting scared because what happened to BoS is dumb. That was an isolated case with specific characteristics. The US' long arm of evil is strong but they do have their limits.

My belief is just a policy based on fear and paranoia...

I would never say no to a customer...not only becuase of business but because if I was an american, I would feel that my rights are being stepped all over the place

[two_card]

Received mine fron Littlewoods today.

[CasinoForumu]

I think casinos will condone to US players who mark another country while registering.So all sides will be happy.

[jetset]

Originally Posted by TheBloke

Nearly all the casinos who have opted out so far are based primarily in other markets. There have been a couple of Asian-based groups, and a couple from the UK and Europe.

Any group that has a strong or majority US customer base will not take this step unless they absolutely have to. At most they'll just order their execs to stay out of the US.

I think that is a sensible assessment, with which I agree. The U.S. market is still a very important one imo, although business in other regions is being built up with more energy now due to the antics of US legislators and enforcers - no sense in having all your eggs in one uncertain basket, however attractive that basket may be.

The federal authorities in the US have shown us before that they are prepared to use intimidatory strategies.

Look at the impact that their tactics had on Internet gambling advertising last year, and they didn't take a single publication to court - it was achieved through officially implied "you may be committing a criminal offence" style threats.

The results of their current activities (at least on the face of it) will convince the DoJ that they are being effective in terms of damage to overseas companies, turning away Americans and deterring offshore personnel from visiting the States, but at the end of the day they will have to prove their cases in a court of law....and those politicians wouldn't be trying to pass legislation if they were really convinced present law is strong enough to stand up to stern legal contest.

The active involvement of states like Louisiana in going after offshore execs is a disturbing fresh trend, and the scare effect has been as effective as if this had been an international federal initiative - the seeds of new anti-online gambling strategies may lie within that experience if it was widely applied across a significant number of states (there are eight with specifically anti-online gambling laws I think) But as The Bloke says, execs will simply avoid visiting the US of A - inconvenient but not fatal, and certainly not conducive to a sensible end solution for all parties.

The question of effective enforcement is being glossed over, too and that will be a whole issue in itself, with the banks already expressing very serious reservations about the role that the legislators want to impose on them, and the sensitivities that must surround any suggestion of tampering with ISPs and the freedom of the Internet.

Still on topic, the political phone-in on the 12th of this month initiated by the PPA seems to have had some impact, judging by early reports. Nothing like a good barrage of mail and phone calls from angry constituents to illustrate the strength of opposition and get the attention of a legislator!

[amatrine]

" think casinos will condone to US players who mark another country while registering.So all sides will be happy"

If you did this, and won, you stand a good chance of not getting paid.

Amatrine

[Rettahs]

Add Joyland to the list, not that anyone plays there from here after doing a search so that should save some people from the USA some cash one way or the other :-)