RTG Progressive Slot JackPot ???

[OMENIC]

WHich RTG was it?

I know 49er has a max cashout stipulation but they payout prgressives. I just read their T&C the other day.

Great luck with a twist.

Did you get a screenshot? Which game were you playing?

[Wagerjunction]

Guys - i had a lady last month who won just about every single reel series jackpot there was going on all of the slot games - she came close to $100k in winnings across all of my casinos - hmmmppppph well that hurt but you have to have winners. She played with various amounts constantly going up and down in her betting amounts .

Aussie Keith there is a very simple explanation as to how to avoid the max cash out rule - dont play with a coupon and you will not be subject to terms and conditions.

Have a great weekend guys

Regards
Greg

[aussiekeith]

Yes I understand what people have said.
I cant say which casino group this was yet as I have people working on this as per their requests I am keeping the name out of the forum at this stage.
It is fine to say do not use coupons and when you have little money to spend and all the coupon offers that are sent out from RTG casinos in the mail and also that pop up in the software its hard not to take up a coupon offer.
I have read so much about problems with RTG Casinos that I have uninstalled most of them now. Why, waiting up to 1 month for payments for $150.00 or lower etc. A lot you can not check your playthrough in the software which is built in by default.How does a player know that the casino is being honest when you go to live help and ask if your playthrough has been met?
Yes I do have the screen shot of the win and which game it was but if I mention the game at this stage people will be able to work out which casino it was out, if they have not yet.I will reveal all once the pitch a bitch has been sorted out.
I still maintain that who can tell when a random jackpot is going to come up.
I know from playing that they often go off between $3,000 and $7,000 and that being the case if I was playing a video slot close to $7,000 yes I would ask for the coupon to be taken out, deposit with a cash only deposit or use a no max coupon.Also these real time video jackpots have gone as high as $25,000 to my knowledge.I still maintain that if a player wins a decent sized random jackpot and requardless of what ever coupon they use the casino operator should offer a reduced payment out of fair play and good will.
Even if it was 25% or 33% of the payment as I mean to say at withdrawal the coupon bonus value in most cases will be taken out of the players account and the player has to be sure the playthrough has been met.I wonder how many people win in these random jackpots and cannot get paid because od using bonus coupons ?Just how much money is saved by the casino as the money not paid does not go back into the random jackpot

[Wagerjunction]

Hi Ozzie Keith

I thought i would respond to you here

I have read so much about problems with RTG Casinos that I have uninstalled most of them now.

This is really old hat now ,there are good and bad Casinos on every platform and if you decide to play at a Casino do your homework.There is nothing wrong with a large number of RTGs these days.If you stick to the Casinos on this board you really should have no issues at all. I know as i play across all platforms and will only play Casinos endorsed here.

It is fine to say do not use coupons and when you have little money to spend

- With all due respect if the above is the case should you be gambling ,i do know what you mean though and it is difficult . Casinos are a tempting place -

I still maintain that if a player wins a decent sized random jackpot and requardless of what ever coupon they use the casino operator should offer a reduced payment out of fair play and good will

Well i guess everybody is entitled to their opinion but as with every business why should the Casino pay you if it has met its requirements.

I think that what you need to be aware of is the fact that the Random Jackpots on the Reel Time slots are not network wide and the Casino pays for it .If it were a network progressive jackpot then i would have no hesitation in recommending to the Casino to pay out the full amount.Yes that is because RTG pay for it - well we all do but you know what i mean.

The Casinos in their battle to stay alive in a very competitive field in my opinion have gone totally overboard and shot themselves in the foot with the dishing out of Bonuses/Coupons and now subsequently have to introduce these terms and conditions - this is not unique to RTG by the way.

I was having a conversation with one of my webmasters and he wants me to introduce a Casino where there are no bonuses - you only get a x amount back according to your play as any loyalty program does . What is the chance of that happening and how long do you think it would survive ?

At the end of the day Keith ,it is your choice to take the coupon or not and if you do, you need to conform to the terms and conditions .If you dont like them as i said previously then you need to decline the coupon .

It can make you a lot of money or it can cause a bit of heartache - ultimately the choice is yours.

Take care and good luck with your gaming.

Regards
Greg

[chuchu59]

Hi Ozzie Keith

I thought i would respond to you here



This is really old hat now ,there are good and bad Casinos on every platform and if you decide to play at a Casino do your homework.There is nothing wrong with a large number of RTGs these days.If you stick to the Casinos on this board you really should have no issues at all. I know as i play across all platforms and will only play Casinos endorsed here.

- With all due respect if the above is the case should you be gambling ,i do know what you mean though and it is difficult . Casinos are a tempting place -



Well i guess everybody is entitled to their opinion but as with every business why should the Casino pay you if it has met its requirements.

I think that what you need to be aware of is the fact that the Random Jackpots on the Reel Time slots are not network wide and the Casino pays for it .If it were a network progressive jackpot then i would have no hesitation in recommending to the Casino to pay out the full amount.Yes that is because RTG pay for it - well we all do but you know what i mean.

The Casinos in their battle to stay alive in a very competitive field in my opinion have gone totally overboard and shot themselves in the foot with the dishing out of Bonuses/Coupons and now subsequently have to introduce these terms and conditions - this is not unique to RTG by the way.

I was having a conversation with one of my webmasters and he wants me to introduce a Casino where there are no bonuses - you only get a x amount back according to your play as any loyalty program does . What is the chance of that happening and how long do you think it would survive ?

At the end of the day Keith ,it is your choice to take the coupon or not and if you do, you need to conform to the terms and conditions .If you dont like them as i said previously then you need to decline the coupon .

It can make you a lot of money or it can cause a bit of heartache - ultimately the choice is yours.

Take care and good luck with your gaming.

Regards
Greg

A casino with no bonuses? Hmm, in horse racing terminology this would be like a late-maturing stayer as opposed to those early-maturing sprinters. The marketing will be difficult since the players' bets would not contain a cent of the casinos' money but the cashback/loyalty programme could be a little more generous than most with incremental upgrades once a certain level of wagering is attained eg 1% for first $3000 wagered, 1.4% for the next $3000 and so on within any particular period.

If the casino can survive its early days where new signups are likely to be slow, their player base is likely to be solid because the main attraction will be the cashback and it wont fade away like the new player signup bonuses. In the long run, I think it should be successful as there will be no hassles over wagering requirements and the like and if there is strong mangement and good CS provided, it should come close to playing at B&M casinos.

[Wagerjunction]

Hi Chuchu

i personally think that the idea is a feasible one but would need a massive marketing budget and strong very strong CS .

By the way Keith - is the Casino one of the accredited casinos on this board -If so have you contacted the rep .

I do feel sorry for you but as numerous people are pointing out to you ,you are chasing a lost cause.

Regards
Greg

[chuchu59]

Hi GrandAcesGeisha,

An obvious way would be launching a sister casino to a well-established casino(like 32RED and DASH) so people are already confident about the CS and the marketing can also spread through the original casino to its' player base. Frankly,I actually think your group fits the bill although it is less in the limelight than a couple of others.

There is another thread started by Pinababy on the 'true meaning' of bonuses and this is probably where we could start discussions on a no-bonus casino and what it can do to attract players. If you are successful into running a 'no-bonus casino into a no-nonsense casino where disputes on wagering requirements are virtually non-existent, you are already halfway there.

[silcnlayc]

you only get a x amount back according to your play as any loyalty program does . What is the chance of that happening and how long do you think it would survive ?

Would be a dream come true for me! Where do I sign up??? Do you realize the kind of players you would be attracting? Top notch players that aren't afraid to invest thier own monies for a little fun. No chasers, bonus hunters, no complaints (hopefully) for if the payouts are quick and painless...you would probably be in a league of your own with many knocking on your door to get in IMO!

In the long run, I think it should be successful as there will be no hassles over wagering requirements

Yup, yup...to what he said!

[aussiekeith]

About bonus amounts etc and i responce to this post mainly.
Posted by: GrandAcesGeisha
On: 4th September 2006 05:21 PM

Hi Ozzie Keith
I thought i would respond to you here.

Hi GrandAcesGeisha.
I have spent the last 2 days online off and on looking at a lot of the RTG Casinos.
Amazing how much variation there is a far as playthrough requirements and bonus systems on offer, however, also in my email and all from RTG based casinos the last to days I have been recieving all these fantastic deals with coupons up to 600% and deposits as low as $25.00 and use 3 coupons and get freechips, whow.
Big Deal nothing about max payouts or anything like that however.
Anyway as also suggested in other posts about a casino with no bonus.
I agree and disagree with that as it would be hard to get new customers.
Let me quote in here what I was sent from correspondance from an RTG Casino manager whos name i have removed at this stage as they have a very fair system and a 20% reload bonus with montly deposits, which I personally feel is a good idea.
This is also in responce to my 10x cash out because of my coupon that I used.
Quote<. The circumstance that you laid out for me will never occur here unless you are playing on a VIP Chip. That is the only type of bonus that we offer that comes with limits on how much you can withdraw. Every other bonus, including comp points and our 200% Signup Bonus, come with no limits on the withdrawal< End.
As you see all chips but one have a no max payout and also comp points have no limits. At many different casinos using all different software comp points do come with a playthrough requirement and as comp points take quite a lot of wagering to be able to reach the point where they can be transfered into the players account, I think they should have no playthrough requirement.
It took me $10,000 worth of wagering at one casino to get 1,000 comp points and then they come with a 30x playthrough which I think is rediculous for $10.00 worth of comp points.
I am in favour of lower bonus chips and actually the 2 microgamming casinos that I play at mostly send me out weekly and or fortnightly promotions for my deposits and they maybe deposit $60.00 for $40.00 bonus or 20% up to $200.00 max deposit, I stay with them because I feel they are rewarding me for playing there and they have no restrictions on payouts with them and a sensible playthrough requirement.That is why I keep going back and depositing.
Anyway not all will agree with me and that is fine.
I still maintain that If we are giving chips and do not play restricted games in a casino and hit a random or progressive jackpot, there should be at least a percentage payout or just make random jackpot or progressive games not allowable to play unless the player deposits without a bonus or uses a no max cash out coupon.

[Wagerjunction]

Ozzie Keith - i tried to read your email but it is a massive pile of words that i can barely make sense out of . You are telling me that there is a lot of variation in the Online Casino world - ummmm yes and that you spoke to a RTG Casino manager who says they dont have a restriction on any of their coupons only on a particular one .Well that applies with us as well .We only have the max cashout on particular coupons as well .

Silcnlayc we are currently talking to one of our partners re getting a Casino like this going and i will update you all in due course.I think it would be a great idea to try this out.

As for getting players - i think the power of the internet could probably do that.

Best Regards
Greg