5Dimes - What's the catch?

[sal monella]

Very interesting.

Looking at the video poker in the Bonus casino, I ran several game options through WinPoker, and they all returned between 100.0% and 100.25%. Seems like a good concept -- no house edge for optimal play, but proper strategy for many games will be so unusual that players will make many mistakes.

However in addition to the more unusual variations, the casino also offers standard full-pay Deuces Wild and Joker Wild, with returns around 100.7%. (This is based on information from the web site. I haven't downloaded yet.) Which makes me wonder if the games can actually be fair.

Regarding the 2-to-1 blackjack game, according to Ken Uston in "Million Dollar Blackjack," removal of the double-down option adds 1.73% to the house edge. This is for a single-deck game, but the numbers shouldn't be much different for multiple decks. Here's the breakdown:

doubling on 11 ... 0.89%
doubling on 10 ... 0.56%
doubling on 9 .... 0.14%
soft doubling .... 0.14%
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total ............ 1.73%

[Zoozie]

However in addition to the more unusual variations, the casino also offers standard full-pay Deuces Wild and Joker Wild, with returns around 100.7%.

If it is too good to be true....
But it is very interesting if it indeed is a 'fair' game. You could live from milking this 100.7% game even at the 1$ level (5$ bet).

Somehow this makes me think of Slotland with their fake VP-games that is actually slot-based. Any casino software that is fair would definately attempt to get certified, so this gives another indication of suspecious software.

Zoozie

[eeeee]

Bump.
Any updates here? Looks too good to be true. Any trip reports? Any explaination of the "bonus casino" vs "jackpot casino"?

thx.

[hoopla]

I played the full pay deuces wild machine for about two weeks in december before they pulled it and I did really well on it. I was betting the max $5 coins ($25/hand) and calculated that it paid about $120/hr using optimal play. I hit a royal there as well. Too bad they took all the +ev casino games away.

[Pocketdiggers77]

Ive been playing at 5dimes for a while and posted some of my wins here. I like the super let it ride that pays 90-1 for four of kind 400-1 for a str flush and 2000 for a royal. Only hit a couple of 4 of a kinds though. I trust 5dimes but have long wondered how they could do this.

[hoopla]

do you know what the payback % is on that super bonus let it ride game pocketdiggers?

[petro]

I took a look at 5dimes a week ago.
Been almost 10 years since they were audited.
I wouldn't suggest to go there as this is highly suspicious.
As for their games that are slightly above 100% this is nothing new.
I've seen casinos in real life offer about ~103%.
It is not hard to find casinos on the internet offering 100% games.
I've seen regular casino games on the internet offering 110%+ belive it or not.
Seek and ye shall find...