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    I made a simple GUI and turned the JoB multi-line simulator into an Applet.

    JoB multi-line simulator

    Next project is of course the make the slot-simulator into an applet also, which should be done within a few days if I work on it. I plan to make several other tools I have developed into applets as well, so all can access them easy.

    Last week I made my all-in calculator into an applet as well.
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    Very interesting stuff Zoozie!!

    I wonder how 4-hand Double Double Bonus Poker (MG) would hold up?

    Ive always had suspicions about that game. It seems very very difficult to hit any 4 of a kind, and the starting hands seem to be worse than JoB or Aces and Faces. It should be no harder to hit 4OAK than the others, but it does seem to be the case. I know its higher variance, but the amount of 4OAKs etc should surely be the same (regardless of what they pay)

    Keep up the good work

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    nice, so in 1.73x10^8 deals you got 257 pat royals, and 14 royals randomly after discarding everything. wild!

    and in response to retlaw, you get a lot of royals off of two cards because often you will hold two suited paints (or JT, QT) just looking to pair up, but on occasion you get rewarded with a flush, straight, or the elusive royal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygobrokey View Post
    nice, so in 1.73x10^8 deals you got 257 pat royals, and 14 royals randomly after discarding everything. wild!

    and in response to retlaw, you get a lot of royals off of two cards because often you will hold two suited paints (or JT, QT) just looking to pair up, but on occasion you get rewarded with a flush, straight, or the elusive royal.

    fun stuff.

    This is what I find odd, surely there should be as many, if not more, RFs when everything is discarded than are dealt PAT from the full 52 card deck. The discards from when all 5 are thrown away are not going to include ANY, Aces or faces, as these would he held, and drawing a pat RF from a 47 card deck with all the faces and Aces available, and only ever one "10" short, should be easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    This is what I find odd, surely there should be as many, if not more, RFs when everything is discarded than are dealt PAT from the full 52 card deck. The discards from when all 5 are thrown away are not going to include ANY, Aces or faces, as these would he held, and drawing a pat RF from a 47 card deck with all the faces and Aces available, and only ever one "10" short, should be easier.
    I think you forget the weight by how often you actually discard all cards. On every hand you have a chance of hitting a PAT RF. And only in rare case where you discard everything, you have a chance of hitting a 'discard all RF'. So you have much less attemps to hit this 'discard all RF'.
    However you are probably right that IN THE CASE YOU DISCARD EVERYTHING, the chance of hitting the RF is higher than getting dealth from a fresh deck.
    My own RF distributions actually match my results. (I have only had 1 discard everything RF so far though, and 2 PAT RF).


    It is also because of the weight that you hit RF about the same number of times with 3 or 4 card held.

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    I made a simulation that showed you discard everything in JoB only 3.2%.
    An in this case it is almost twice as likely to hit a RF.

    The whole point of the simulation was to see where you RF's came from over the long run.

    Calculating RF probablity given you hold 0,1,2,3,4,5 is much easier and has been done many times before and this could be done without a simulation.

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