EZ Bonus explained?

[Stanford]

I wonder what the hold on MG slots are. I see American Roulette clears dollar for dollar and that is about 5.26%.

Anyway, what I like about it is that you can just walk away from wagering requirements and take your winnings with you. If I read this correctly, there is no minimum required. I often leave a casino after playing my deposit though only a small amount.

Stanford

[sal monella]

I wonder what the hold on MG slots are. I see American Roulette clears dollar for dollar and that is about 5.26%.

According to the Price Waterhouse audit reports linked from some Microgaming casino web pages, the house advantage for slots appears to be between 4 and 5%, on average.

Regarding the ability to cash out early, it's common for the bonus to clear in increments such as $10, so it would be a good idea to check to see if you're close to clearing the next incremental amount. Generally the remaining uncleared bonus amount is forfeited in the event of an early cashout.

[vinylweatherman]

Riverbelle have now started with this.
Their terms are totally different to the general trend,
Many of the SLOTS only count 67% on a 30x playthrough (WTF)
BUT, Table Poker counts 100% instead of the usual 50% (Idiots!)

So, Thunderstruck, with a proven house edge of 5% (Zoozie's Java simulator), counts only for 67% of a 30x WR, but the Table Poker games, with house edge between 2% and 3% count in full. They are kinder on Blackjack and VP too!

Play on different game groups contribute differently to
the overall wager requirement being met.
Please see below for a detailed breakdown.

100% of wagers on Slots; Progressive Slots; Table
Poker; Red dog; Sic Bo; Keno and Scratch games

67% of wagers on Roulette; Video Slots; Paigow Poker

33% of wagers on Craps; Blackjack; Baccarat;
Video Poker

[Stanford]

Riverbelle have now started with this.
Their terms are totally different to the general trend,
Many of the SLOTS only count 67% on a 30x playthrough (WTF)
BUT, Table Poker counts 100% instead of the usual 50% (Idiots!)...

100% of wagers on Slots; Progressive Slots; Table
Poker; Red dog; Sic Bo; Keno and Scratch games

67% of wagers on Roulette; Video Slots; Paigow Poker

33% of wagers on Craps; Blackjack; Baccarat;
Video Poker

I like that schedule best so far. It allows craps and blackjack. Just got a promo from Spin Palace. This is there breakout:

100% - all Slots, American Roulette and all Parlor Games
50% - all Table Pokers, Red Dog, all Roulettes (excluding American Roulette), Casino War and Sic Bo
10% - all Video Pokers (except all Aces Poker), all Blackjacks (except Classic Blackjack), all Craps and
all Baccarats
2% - Classic Blackjack and All Aces Video Poker

I can find puts and takes on all of these schedules. I am glad that all the games are counting and that one can leave at will.

Stanford

[vinylweatherman]

I like that schedule best so far. It allows craps and blackjack. Just got a promo from Spin Palace. This is there breakout:

100% - all Slots, American Roulette and all Parlor Games
50% - all Table Pokers, Red Dog, all Roulettes (excluding American Roulette), Casino War and Sic Bo
10% - all Video Pokers (except all Aces Poker), all Blackjacks (except Classic Blackjack), all Craps and
all Baccarats
2% - Classic Blackjack and All Aces Video Poker

I can find puts and takes on all of these schedules. I am glad that all the games are counting and that one can leave at will.

Stanford

This "cash out at any time" does not seem to be working. The Golden Reef thread is all about this. There is nothing in the RiverBelle terms that says you can cash in early, which gives the impression you will get the "BelleRock runaround" if you do, but it will be worse as the bonus will not automatically get token refunded when you are told you have not made WR.

I cannot understand why they have the 67% for Video Slots, unless the hold on these is less than we have been lead to believe. Surely it would not be a cynical trick on their part as these are probably the most popular games in the casino despite the high house edge; perhaps hoping players will not notice and think "hey, EZBonus - I know how that works so I don't really need to check the small print". This stunt has already been done by Casino Action with the 50x WR as well as the harsh game weightings, and players were not informed.

[sal monella]

Riverbelle have now started with this.

I'm looking at the signup bonus terms for Riverbelle. First thing I noticed was that they seem to have intended to reduce the bonus amount from 200 to 100, but the fine print still says 200.

The way I read the wagering percentage clause, it looks similar to the Fortune Lounge 20% restriction, meaning your wagers at the 33% or 67% games will count fully, but you can't play those games to meet the entire wager requirement.

I'm also not seeing any provision for Casino War, presumably an unintended omission.

I'm certainly intrigued by the distinction between video slots and regular or progressive slots. The 67% limitation on video slots seems to suggest they have a higher return than regular slots. This surprises me because video slots often have lots of time-wasting second-screen bonuses that reduce the amount of time the player spends actually coughing up money; I always assumed this was factored into the payback.

By the way I notice the Gaming Club has the same terms, but is holding steady with a 200 credit bonus.