Mansion change the terms for their bonus

[Darem1]

I had an account there for a very short time. Got tired of their tricks and I closed the account. If they had been more straighforward they would have probably gotten more of my money.....

[Lifesticks]

I am in a situation with them at the moment that they seem to have serious problems adressing. Not going to get into details, not yet at least, but their CS are using a standard "the amount on your account is correct" phrase to answer clear questions that are in no way related to the amount on my account.

[Scooter7]

In the states, this is called "bait and switch".

Whether or not the change was 'bait and switch', the effect is the same. It gives players reason to doubt the integrity of the operator.

I want to see games I can trust and operators who I can trust. If ECogra, software developers, and casino owners, (affs too, I guess) don't hold themselves to a higher standard as a group, then I hope national governments with market influence (guess who? ) force the issue.

It's the only long-term answer to the problems that are continuously brought to forums like this.

[cipher]

Whether or not the change was 'bait and switch', the effect is the same. It gives players reason to doubt the integrity of the operator.

I want to see games I can trust and operators who I can trust. If ECogra, software developers, and casino owners, (affs too, I guess) don't hold themselves to a higher standard as a group, then I hope national governments with market influence (guess who? ) force the issue.

It's the only long-term answer to the problems that are continuously brought to forums like this.

Hi Scooter7:

You're absolutely correct, and as long as casinos, gamblers and affiliates are all willing to whistle in the night (or so to speak) this kind of stuff left un-checked will in fact be the un-doing of the Internet Gambling here in the states. That in turn will effectively cause an osterity (tightening up of the belt) in the industry because there will be far less money to go around with the casinos and the budget dollars that they will have been accustomed to will no longer be there and then you'll see the whole thing go to hell in a hand basket.

Have a good one.

[Linus]

Legally and politically, it's hard for the US to keep its citizens from gambling at foreign-owned casinos. It's already against the law, but it's hard for states to exercise any kind of jurisdiction against operators located in Gibraltar and Costa Rica. And arresting individual gamblers isn't a good idea either, for a variety of reasons.

Stopping Americans from funding offshore sites is another possibility - and that's the object of Goodlatte's bill, to my understanding. But they've already stopped us from using credit cards, and that's hardly put a dent in it. Perhaps they'll stop banks from funding Neteller. But if they do, I have confidence in casinos, that they'll find another way to get our money.

Theoretically, I suppose, they could force ISPs to block gambling sites, the way China blocks half the internet from its citizens. But that would be deeply unAmerican, and hugely unpopular, I'd guess. And anyway, nobody's even suggested it, yet.

Short of locking up Americans, for something that practically built Las Vegas, Reno, and Atlantic City - or sending the Marines into Grenada - I don't know what the US government can possibly do about it.

[rogue724]

That is why I didn't write my congressman abt this. I wrote someone far more powerful and influential--Bryan! Go get these chumps, CM (or at least remove them from your accredited list)

[Macgyver]

Mansion's website now states:

(Please note - Blackjack, Roulette, Sic Bo and Baccarat do not count towards the wagering requirement)

on their bonus page.

Doesn't address the bad practice of holding a player to terms that aren't published on the website, though.

[kingkong098]

The terms have changed again, and like before, players are stuck with the new terms. Blackjack is ok again now but only worth 10%.

[awstick]

Phew, good thing I didn't wait to finish the WR. I made my deposits last night and finished the WR a few hours later. I would have been pissed if half way through I found out I now needed to play twice as much to on VP. Although maybe the single deck blackjack at a rate of 10% would actually have been a better deal than the VP was at 50%, but I haven't looked up what the house edge is on that.