Western Union More Detail on the letter I received

**dominique** · 28th May 2006, 04:45 AM

You keep saying "site".

What kind of site?

Casino? Sportsbetting? Poker? Bingo? Some kind of agency placing bets for you?

**Pinababy69** · 28th May 2006, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by dominique

You keep saying "site".

What kind of site?

Casino? Sportsbetting? Poker? Bingo? Some kind of agency placing bets for you?

I hope it wasn't Futurebet, was it Duke?? LOL....sorry, couldn't resist.

**duke7123** · 28th May 2006, 05:16 AM

Sorry but until now I onlu assumed that all would know that it is a online casino site a Microgaming software. 99% of the time I played the slots and video poker. Once again sorry but I will not name the site as of yet.

Thanks again and sorry that I did not tell what it was.

Duke

**duke7123** · 28th May 2006, 05:20 AM

Any Futurebet sites I have learned from many forums that it is best to stay away from that site. and Or any sites that have their sofware. It was a MICROGAMING software site. Which I have played now for 6 months.

Thanks

Duke

**Linus** · 28th May 2006, 06:08 AM

Duke - I'm not sure why you don't just use Neteller or Firepay, if Western Union doesn't want you to use them.

Spear & Dom - There's some ambiguity about whether Federal law prohibits gambling.

State law, however, is clear.

All the states generally prohibit gambling. Most states also have exceptions. Nevada allows it in state-licensed casinos. Others have state-run lotteries. Still others limit it to Indian reservations.

But if your gambling doesn't fall under one of those exceptions, it's not legal. And no state has an exception for gambling on the internet. The mere fact you're doing it on the internet doesn't make it legal.

The penalties do vary from one state to another. For example, in my state (Texas) it's a Class C misdemeanor. In Washington, supposedly, it's a felony.

**duke7123** · 28th May 2006, 07:25 AM

Linus, I have only told the truth here its not about neteller or firepay or ecocard. Its about what I have posted here just telling all what I have and still going though in this matter. The fact that even the casino site accepted funds made via Western Union in my wifes madian name and then they credited it to my account and she is not even a registered player nor was the funds sent in my regesitered name. The casino credited my account because like I said I have played them now for 6 months and sent a lot of money. So I guess it like Carl huttons story if one feels that they are going to win and I have played several sites. Then maybe his story is true even on page 2 he talks about Western Union and names. So I am just not going to name the site because I am a owner of several corporations and I will respect the site until I get a chance to talk with them. We have address this before but now its becoming a nightmare for me and the site is ok with that. Having said that I feel I owe it to them even if it means taking some heat because the deserve a chance to help me with this.

Respectfully,

Duke

**spearmaster** · 28th May 2006, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Linus

Spear & Dom - There's some ambiguity about whether Federal law prohibits gambling.

State law, however, is clear.

All the states generally prohibit gambling. Most states also have exceptions. Nevada allows it in state-licensed casinos. Others have state-run lotteries. Still others limit it to Indian reservations.

But if your gambling doesn't fall under one of those exceptions, it's not legal. And no state has an exception for gambling on the internet. The mere fact you're doing it on the internet doesn't make it legal.

The penalties do vary from one state to another. For example, in my state (Texas) it's a Class C misdemeanor. In Washington, supposedly, it's a felony.

Your statement said "Internet gambling is illegal in the US."

This is not regulated by federal law as you have pointed out - and to refer to the US rather than the individual states implies that federal law governs this.

Just because something is not explicitly legal does not make it explicitly illegal as well. This is the basis on which I said that your statement is incorrect.

There are states which indeed have laws directly referring to online gambling - and of which all of those that I know of do in fact make internet gambling illegal. There is no state which has declared internet gambling legal as far as I am aware, unless you include intra-state gambling online, which is legal in Nevada for residents within state borders, but financial transactions must otherwise be made in person at the casino/sportsbook in question.

**Linus** · 28th May 2006, 06:00 PM

Spear, a general prohibition against gambling covers gambling on the internet, just like a law against stealing prohibits using the internet to steal.

**duke7123** · 28th May 2006, 06:16 PM

It seems to me that you are correct and I have just scanned part of the letter that I received and email in the moneygram. I think you will see that they are very serious.

By the way Thank you.

Duke

**spearmaster** · 28th May 2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Linus

Spear, a general prohibition against gambling covers gambling on the internet, just like a law against stealing prohibits using the internet to steal.

There is no federal law that provides for general prohibition of gambling, other than the Wire Act which prevent the placing of a wager across state lines - and this has only been found to apply to sports wagering at present.

Furthermore, not every state has general prohibitions against gambling. Thus your statement cannot be held to be true.

edit -> Clarification - what may be considered gambling in one state may not be considered gambling in another. Statutes and age limits vary widely from state to state - and as I have pointed out before, Internet gambling DOES have some legal status in Nevada. Thus a blanket statement such as "Internet gambling is illegal in the US" cannot possibly be accurate.