888 / Casino On Net Condoning Site Scraping & Copyright Theft?

[Casinomeister]

eCOGRA is set up for player issues, and this has always been made clear. They are fully aware of this situation and have been following this closely. But please bear in mind, for them to remain focused on what they are doing, it would not be practical to begin tackling issues that have been considered "affiliate" issues - or out of their realm. They simply to not have the resources and manpower to effectively take these sorts of issues head on.

Everyone who counts has been made aware, and is monitoring/being briefed on this situation. There is also a major conference on the horizon where I'm sure this will be a hot topic.

The main thing I think is not to punish people or rogue the hell out of them, but to bring a serious issue to the surface and do something about it. I expect 888.com/casino-on-net to take immediate action on getting their collective shit together.

[rowmare]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

eCOGRA is set up for player issues, and this has always been made clear. They are fully aware of this situation and have been following this closely. But please bear in mind, for them to remain focused on what they are doing, it would not be practical to begin tackling issues that have been considered "affiliate" issues - or out of their realm. They simply to not have the resources and manpower to effectively take these sorts of issues head on.

I actually agree with that - it wouldn't be a good thing to dilute their effectiveness by overloading them with issues that they don't have the manpower to persue.

I believe that, should the accusations be proven, eCOGRA will reconsider listing them.

An aside: Over the last year and a half (or so) the issues regarding scraping and spamming have grown worse. Always a problem, it's grown as impatient and less respectable webmasters have joined the tattered fray to regain the traffic they lost when the major search engines banned gambling ads.

[AussieDave]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

My understanding is that it is simply that eGOGRA do not see dealing with affiliate issues as part of their remit.

Simmo! imo there lays the problem. Again imo this industry holds an incestuous <improperly intimate or interconnected: “Press-politics relations are notoriously incestuous” (Boston Globe). > history of letting things slide and or playing double standards when it suits, not with standing conflict of interests either.

In my mind even though this type of event may not be in their <eCogra's> charter, it would seem to me that as John Anderson is the CEO of the Company <CON - 888> directly in the firing line over such an issue it would be grounds enough for eCogra to get involved, remit or otherwise.

I'm not saying that eCogra should take a public stand on this matter. However, given that its foundation were built on funds from CON and maybe still functions with ongoing funds from this benefactor, in my view it would be a wise initiative to conduct its own in house enquiries regarding this matter. Least to prevent such issues from returning to bit eCogra on its ass.

To simple take the head in the sand route could very well turn out to be a BIG mistake.

[Simmo!]

Thing is though, I see this as a CON problem. It's only they who can sort it, no-one else. Yes, pressure helps, but it's their decision to either support it or not.

It's too easy to deflect where the true problem lies Trezz. Plus, I don't want to see an important issued turned into yet another debate on eCOGRA. Everyone knows where everyone stands on that now. We're just gonna get the same old ppl (me included) rehashing the same old ground.

Yes you have a point, don't get me wrong, but I have this feeling of doom fast appraoching

This is an 888 thread, and should be an 888 issue IMO.

[rowmare]

Thanks, Simmo! We need to stay on topic. 888.con.

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Thing is though, I see this as a CON problem. It's only they who can sort it, no-one else...

Wham - bam, thank ya m'am (sir), that's it in a nutshell.

[AussieDave]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

eCOGRA is set up for player issues, and this has always been made clear. They are fully aware of this situation and have been following this closely. But please bear in mind, for them to remain focused on what they are doing, it would not be practical to begin tackling issues that have been considered "affiliate" issues - or out of their realm. They simply to not have the resources and manpower to effectively take these sorts of issues head on.

I understand. Even though eCogra will probably not get involved in this publically due to the reasons you've detailed above Bryan, it's however a comforting thought that they are aware of this situation are are following it.

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

The main thing I think is not to punish people or rogue the hell out of them, but to bring a serious issue to the surface and do something about it. I expect 888.com/casino-on-net to take immediate action on getting their collective shit together.

I agree


PS Your one fast typer, maybe that's the journalist coming out in you. You must have been writing this as I was mulling over my last post. Just to clear things, your comments I'd not read before hitting the post button on my previous comments.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by Trezz

Just to clear things, your comments I'd not read before hitting the post button on my previous comments.

LOL. You're not alone...same here

Originally Posted by rowmare

888.con

Subtlety - love it

[Casinomeister]

Actually, I'm trying to write a newsletter that is waaaay past due.

[Simmo!]

As a light-hearted aside, 888.com sponsor Middlesbrough FC (soccer!), who just beat Steaua Bucharest with an 88th minute winner to reach the UEFA Cup final.

So i guess you could say:

They scraped through