Full Pay Nickel Deuces Wild gone at SciFi

[caruso]

SciFi Casino offered DWFP at nickel level from when they opened their doors about five years ago. They also offered Loose Deuces FP at the same level. Respectively, 0.76% and 0.9% player edges with perfect play.

They've now downgraded both games to standard online crap, returning 94.3% and 99% respectively.

Just a heads up for anyone who played these games and might miss this rotten downgrade.

Wazzup, SciFi? - was the $1 an hour win rate costing you too much?

Was it to be more "realistic" and "in keeping with terrestrial casinos", as with Intercasino when they wrecked the Double Bonus game?

Jesus.

[winbig]

It seems greed wins again...

[Zoozie]

Originally Posted by caruso

They've now downgraded both games to standard online crap, returning 94.3% and 99% respectively.

94.3%??? That is probably the worst VP paytable I have ever heard of at
online casinos. I know Boss Media VP really sucks, but I dont even think they
are this bad. (I dont bother to check as I will never play them anyway)

Also seems Intercasino VP now are 97-99% at all games. Intercasino might think they will earn more with this, but now I will only play there for monthly bonus, if I bother at all.

I like to play other software, but not for this price. I will stay at MG. I did find FP JoB (single line only) at casino49'er though, but other games there was reduced paytables also.

Zoozie

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by Zoozie

94.3%??? That is probably the worst VP paytable I have ever heard of at
online casinos. I know Boss Media VP really sucks, but I dont even think they
are this bad. (I dont bother to check as I will never play them anyway)

Boss Media VP used to suck, it had one version of JoB with 95% return, but now there is full pay JoB with 99.54% return, Tens or Better and Double Bonus with 99.1% return.

Originally Posted by caruso

Was it to be more "realistic" and "in keeping with terrestrial casinos", as with Intercasino when they wrecked the Double Bonus game?

There are still casinos in Vegas offering full pay DW and DB. If online casinos want to be more like brick and mortar casinos, they should concentrate on finding a way of serving free drinks to the players.

[Trezz]

Originally Posted by GrandMaster

If online casinos want to be more like brick and mortar casinos, they should concentrate on finding a way of serving free drinks to the players.

that's funny!

[42ndSSD]

Originally Posted by Zoozie

Also seems Intercasino VP now are 97-99% at all games. Intercasino might think they will earn more with this, but now I will only play there for monthly bonus, if I bother at all.

I believe iNetBet and Bodog have the usual 99.54% JoB. (I don't usually play it so I haven't looked in a while.)

Bonus Deuces Wild almost always has a 99.45% payout, but that's one of the more "volatile" VP games. Ditto with Mystery Bonus Poker, which typically has a 99+% return--along with a huge amount of variance thanks to the random bonus selection.

(By the way, Mystery Bonus Poker can be played with a JoB strategy. The only really worthwhile tweak is when Royal Flush is the bonus; if anyone's genuinely interested I can dig out the correct strategy for that case. You'd almost have to be a glutton for punishment to want to play it, though.)

Full pay Jacks or Better is becoming rarer at online casinos because many people play JoB but don't pay any attention to the payout schedule: sucker play.

[oblomov]

Bodog & 49er offer full pay pick em poker,which returns 99.95% according to the wizard:

http://wizardofodds.com/pickempoker

Beware the RF cycle is approximately 330,000 hands, so you need to commit to the game to land the full return. That said, its still 99.5% even without a royal by my estimations.

[thelawnet]

Originally Posted by oblomov

Bodog & 49er offer full pay pick em poker,which returns 99.95% according to the wizard:

http://wizardofodds.com/pickempoker

Beware the RF cycle is approximately 330,000 hands, so you need to commit to the game to land the full return. That said, its still 99.5% even without a royal by my estimations.

Pick Em Poker is one to be avoided..... It's just too risky for my taste.

[Simmo!]

I haven't checked it recently, but iNetBet last year had multi-hand Joker Poker at over 100% expected return. Single hand was also over 100% but slightly less than power play.

[elscrabinda]

Anyone know if Inetbet still deals a player edge VP game?