Fighting H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act

[casino employee]

right then, bring on the WTO lawsuits.....
....any bookmaker laying down the lines as far as how long until the case gets settled?

[Tailgun]

Originally Posted by casino employee

right then, bring on the WTO lawsuits.....
....any bookmaker laying down the lines as far as how long until the case gets settled?

I'd love to see this happen, really take the fight to them and stand up for some justice and fairness in international relations.

(Sigh) But I know better. The WTO is the USA's bitch...

[jetset]

Originally Posted by Cynthia777

Here is the link with video of Bush's signing:

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Correct, nothing was mentioned specifically about the provisions attached concerning Internet gambling. I am anxious to see the complete text of this as Public Law (if anything had been sent back to be amended and "stricken" during that 10-day period). If I come across anything this evening, will update ASAP

That would a helpful check, Cynthia. I've read the full text of the president's signing speech and he doesn't mention the attachment anywhere.

[spearmaster]

Originally Posted by jetset

That would a helpful check, Cynthia. I've read the full text of the president's signing speech and he doesn't mention the attachment anywhere.

I suspect Bush didn't mention it for a number of reasons:

1. He (or more likely, his advisors) knew that this was going to be controversial and wanted to avoid questioning along those lines from the media.

2. By not publicly taking any stance, he allows Congress to absorb all the fallout from any problems with the legislation. If someone asks him about it later, he can say that he felt any such legislation was unimportant by comparison to the Safe Ports Act and that he would be willing to look at any fuiture bills to prohibit or legislate online gambling.

3. He provides a little protection for himself against any backlash from within, particularly as Frank Fahrenkopf of the AGA is a former Republican Party chairman.

What struck me as most funny is that Fox News, notoriously pro-Bush, in writing up their article moved the online gambling stuff to the top of their article!

On the flipside, Lou Dobbs of CNN is preparing a series on "Broken Government" which should be quite interesting. I wonder if he could be convinced to include a mention of this backdoor legislation...

[lovetogamble]

What struck me as most funny is that Fox News, notoriously pro-Bush, in writing up their article moved the online gambling stuff to the top of their article!

I'm glad someone else notices this besides me! I can't stand to watch Fox News anymore! Their nothing but a bunch of hypercritical rebublicans! Bush and his cronies can do no wrong on that news station! They are a lot of things, but "Fair and Balanced" is not one of them them!

[SlotsWizard]

Originally Posted by lovetogamble

I'm glad someone else notices this besides me! I can't stand to watch Fox News anymore! Their nothing but a bunch of hypercritical rebublicans! Bush and his cronies can do no wrong on that news station! They are a lot of things, but "Fair and Balanced" is not one of them them!

You got that right. I like to watch The Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. He provides a very liberal, and usually comical, spin on the news. And in his "Worst person in the world" of the day section, where three people are named as "Worse", "Worser" and "Worst" - Bill O'Reilly usually shows up in one of those positions every day.

Did you catch Keith's rundown of the Ten Amendments, since they did away with habeus corpus? If you don't know what that is, or haven't seen the clip, I found it on YouTube

[lovetogamble]

Did you catch Keith's rundown of the Ten Amendments, since they did away with habeus corpus? If you don't know what that is, or haven't seen the clip, I found it on YouTube

Thanks for the link! You'd never see a segment like that on Fox!!

[jetset]

Arizona Senate Race: Online Gambling community plans assault on Jon Kyl

sdaddy will find this one especially interesting.

[Cynthia777]

From that article (link) Jetset provided:

Gambling911.com has also learned from top government sources that President Bush almost didn't sign the internet gambling legislation. Bush reportedly told key members in his administration that he did not want to sign off on an "unrelated" internet gambling provision that arrived to his desk as an attachment to a much more important port security bill. While hopes were high, the President ultimately signed off on the entire package though making no mention of the measure pertaining to online gambling.

However, although it seemed promising (and would have delayed the passage of the Internet Gambling provision), IMO Bush was reluctant to sign solely because of the fact it was unrelated to the PORT SAFE Act. Not to say that he does not support Internet Gambling Prohibition. Recall in July his support of the House's passage of H.R. 4411:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/legisl...r4411sap-h.pdf

It will be a long and bumpy road (at least until 2008) to get this amended/repealed.

But glad to hear residents of Arizona are taking such a solid stand on this!!

[Tailgun]

I wonder if it isn't possible to get a list of all the various Congressmen and Senators who have voted against online gambling, including supporting this bill. If we know which dirtbags are behind these laws and in which states they serve, we might best advise family and friends (and know ourselves) which way to put our vote in November.