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    Quote Originally Posted by freakin
    How confident are you in your betting system? If you're sure it's a winner, why not up your bets? You should be a billionaire by now.
    Sure, I up my bets in accordance to patterns and ultimately to what my bankroll is. But the fact is that there ARE some losing sessions and things just don't go your way so that is why I quit earlier in a session sometimes. I sometimes lose $40 or $50 for example. I know that I usually will win that back in the next session or two and continue to move forward. I'm not a billionaire by now because this route is a slow way to that and casinos will bar you before you have the chance. Witness the Pirate of 21 fiasco of a year or two ago (Cipher by the way help the guy get a substantial settlement from that). To become a billionaire from here, I would just have to get some winnings from casinos, use that to trade commodities then get into real estate or something.

    Why not prove wizard of odds wrong in his long run simulation challenge? Surely if you prove your system successful over 1 billion hands, it should quiet the naysayers. In fact, you'll also be able to take $20k off the Wizard while you're at it.
    How do I program the human factor into a computer? This goes to what RebelDearg was saying about IBM couldn't program the human factor into Deep(er) Blue.

    The long run is really long, and you'll realize that when you lose all your money.
    I wouldn't say you are wrong in that. Anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westland Bowl
    How do I program the human factor into a computer? This goes to what RebelDearg was saying about IBM couldn't program the human factor into Deep(er) Blue.
    What is the "human factor" in blackjack? You have 2 cards, the dealer shows 1, you have a decision to hit,stand,double,split or surrender. The dealer reacts to your decision with a well defined set of rules. This isn't poker. What am I missing?

    The cards have no memory (at least in a case where the deck is shuffled prior to each deal). Whether the hand you are dealt is part of this session or that session or the other session doesn't matter. Each trial is independent. Sessions are something you use to define your play. The cards have no knowledge of sessions.

    We're not really discussing opinion here. We're discussing facts.

    N.B. - Please understand that I am making these posts in the (possibly vain) hope that I can prevent someone from losing a lot of money because they don't fundamentally understand what casino gambling is. Gambling for entertainment is fine. But if you're gambling to make a profit, you better have a very clear plan to exploit a positive expectation situations. If you can't define that positive expectation situation in a logical way, then it doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpb
    What is the "human factor" in blackjack? You have 2 cards, the dealer shows 1, you have a decision to hit,stand,double,split or surrender. The dealer reacts to your decision with a well defined set of rules. This isn't poker. What am I missing?

    The cards have no memory (at least in a case where the deck is shuffled prior to each deal). Whether the hand you are dealt is part of this session or that session or the other session doesn't matter. Each trial is independent. Sessions are something you use to define your play. The cards have no knowledge of sessions.
    The human factor is the ability to read patterns in the outcomes of the session as it happens. You believe the online casino blackjack hands' outcomes are totally dependent on a truly random selection of cards. I believe otherwise. Land-based-wise, I would agree with you provided that the physical cards are throughly shuffled before put in the shoe. But we are talking about online gambling, where you can't see the cards. So we are likely not going to agree in any way.

    We're not really discussing opinion here. We're discussing facts.
    I agree.

    N.B. - Please understand that I am making these posts in the (possibly vain) hope that I can prevent someone from losing a lot of money because they don't fundamentally understand what casino gambling is. Gambling for entertainment is fine. But if you're gambling to make a profit, you better have a very clear plan to exploit a positive expectation situations. If you can't define that positive expectation situation in a logical way, then it doesn't exist.
    Your intent is good. It's the same with me. But I think people would rather that they discover things for themselves. All I can say is that I lost money when I believed the online games were truly random. Until I thought otherwise and started googling for randomness in blackjack, it led me to some sources and I started winning more. That is the fact with me. These postings are exhausting me here.

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    k......

    playtech blackjack ive done pretty well at.....



    sometimes
    ive gone alot of good sessions but mostly bad....
    blackjack online is some times good, ive done well at rtgs, and some micros
    but mostly are all jokes, i am not quite sure the house advantage at casinos in vegas, but ive never done that bad in vegas, ive seen so many jokes hands online its not even funny

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    ya playtech isnt rigged, blackjack switch, i didnt switch
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    Silly Stuff

    I , myself play exactly OPPOSITE of what is the correct play, when playing BJ online. I have split 10's against a 9, I have doubled down on 6, I have stood on 7's and 8's....I have always stood on 14-16 against 9 or 10 and won 99% of the time, and I actually make out pretty darn good doing what is NOt recommended. I played over 6 hours of slots last night ($2 a spin) starting only with $20 in BJ ($5 a hand).

    Once I go over $50 on BJ, I go to slots..and continue doing silly plays and WINNING!. Drop down to $20, I go back to BJ and build it up....and vice a versa...

    My husband swears I have a horshoe hidden somewhere we won't go...cause when he watches my playing...it literally drives him nuts..but, it keeps me playing for a LONG time on cheap change...so the odds of online BJ playing is not so random as you think..IMHO. If you play 100% correctly..you will lose FAST! I learned that long ago playing online.
    Today is the Tomorrow, you thought about Yesterday...so live as IT IS your last tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by silcnlayc
    I I have split 10's against a 9, I have doubled down on 6, I have stood on 7's and 8's....I have always stood on 14-16 against 9 or 10 and won 99% of the time, .
    So all together now "somewhere over the rainbow....."

    Mitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westland Bowl
    These postings are exhausting me here.
    You're damn sure going to exhaust your bankroll. Good luck. You are far beyond help.

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    The Rainbow looks bright to me!

    Mitch, whether you believe me or not, I really couldn't care, for I know how I play BJ online after years of playing it the "correct" way and losing my a** off.

    I finally understood that "online" BJ is nothing and nowhere the same as B&M (brick and mortar) BJ. Once I stopped playing right ...I started stretching my money a whole lot longer in play..and IMHO, whether you choose to believe or not...playing "wrong" will pay off a lot more than playing right on online BJ.

    Do some practice runs for free if you care to try it out...either way, when your gut says something is fishy...then it stinks....and most BJ games online played right, stink.

    liquidsoap says: but ive never done that bad in vegas, ive seen so many jokes hands online its not even funny
    Liquid soap is right on this.
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    yea i kinda do that, i double down on alot of soft hands, and some times split faces, but i double on soft 20 alot too and it usually works, when it doesnt

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