PLAYTECH BJ

[mitch]

BJ is a negative expectation game in itself so with flat betting, yes, in the long long run all variations and deviations even out to a slight negative overall result. But with various ways to wagering, you can make up for the losing hands, provided you have a large enough bankroll (no, I'm not talking about negative progression.

Ah another person looking for the end of the rainbow.

The simple answer to your assertion is no you can't.

I will illustrate as simply as possible. You have already correctly stated that flat betting will cause you to end up, in the long run, very close to or exactly on probability.

Your system must therefore involve changing the size of your bets in some pattern.

Therefore, if you were involved in a coin tossing competition you could win money from your opponent by using your method.

Suppose you made a million tosses, probability says the result should be very close to 50% wins. ie 500,000 units.

However you decide to vary your bets in some way and end up making 500,000 bets of 1 unit, 100,000 bets of 2 units, 50,000 of 4 units, and 10,000 bets of 10 units.

Probability says you still win 500,000 units ie 250,000 1 unit bets, 50,000 2 unit bets, 25,000 4 unit bets and 5000 10 unit bets.

You apparently are saying you can alter probability in a way that causes your bigger bets to win more often than probability says they should. Good trick that! ( Of course the exact same betting pattern is causing your opponent to lose his bigger bets!! The method therefore apparently only works for you )

If you are still convinced after reading this that you can do this, perhaps you can describe the theory that underpins this amazing feat. You don,t have to post your actual method just the underlying logic.

Mitch

[GrandMaster]

BJ is a negative expectation game in itself so with flat betting, yes, in the long long run all variations and deviations even out to a slight negative overall result. But with various ways to wagering, you can make up for the losing hands, provided you have a large enough bankroll (no, I'm not talking about negative progression).

Let me repeat: there is no way to turn a negative expectation game to a positive expectation game by any kind of betting strategy however large your bankroll, as long as there is a table limit.

[Westland Bowl]

First three hands lost at $1 wager each. Fourth hand win $1. Fifth hand wager would be double what I lost so far $2x2=$4. I win the fifth hand- gain of $2.

What if I lost? Sixth hand back to $1- lose. 7th thru 10th hands- lose $1 each. 11th hand win $1. Up to this point I've lost $10 so double that means I wager $20 for my 12th hand. If I win, I won $10 overall on only winning 25% of my hands.

If I don't get two-in-a-row by the fourth time, I quit. It happens often enough to have a stop loss plan. I usually play only 30 to 50 hands each session.

When the play just goes on and on of one win then another losing streak, I may quit then or keep on betting minimum until I get some wins then try one more time. I believe this happens more often than it randomly should. Especially compared to land-based casinos.

[paul02085]

Even though i do not believe most legitimate casinos rig their BJ as stated above, I will say that if a casino has no need to rig a game because they will win in the long run, why do they go to all of the trouble they go to to disallow legitimate player wins and the like? Makes a body wonder.

[winbig]

Even though i do not believe most legitimate casinos rig their BJ as stated above, I will say that if a casino has no need to rig a game because they will win in the long run, why do they go to all of the trouble they go to to disallow legitimate player wins and the like? Makes a body wonder.

Because they're greedy, plain and simple.

[winbig]

I believe this happens more often than it randomly should. Especially compared to land-based casinos.

How can you compare one non-random game to another non-random game? If ones streaks equaled each other, then I'd start to worry; not if they were totally different.

[Westland Bowl]

Even though i do not believe most legitimate casinos rig their BJ as stated above, I will say that if a casino has no need to rig a game because they will win in the long run, why do they go to all of the trouble they go to to disallow legitimate player wins and the like? Makes a body wonder.

EXACTLY Paul! Thank you! That is obviously a disconnect that should be screaming obvious to everyone! There are certainly people winning time after time at blackjack (and baccarat) to realize they know something is up. Land-based casinos don't bar non-counters so why should online casinos bar people if you can't count cards at online casinos and it's a negative expectation game???? With the lower minimum bets at online casinos compared to land-based casinos, it's easier to win online with various wagering strategies. Hence, the tweaked casino software. In my opinion, at least.

[RebelDearg]

My original question has side tracked into something else.
Allow me to elaborate.

When I play on-line casinos I don't think about it as a casino nor do I operate any recognised strategies. The reason is because it's not a casino its a computer program designed by a guy who learned how to program in college.
All land based casino strategies go out the window. They are well known and easily prevented from success.

When Gary Kasparov played IBM's Deep Thoughts in 1989 he wiped the floor with it, again in 1996 he played the updated Deep Blue and scored a less then comfortable victory. In 1997 IBM gathered 10 of the world greatest grand masters that had studied Kasparovs many, many strategies and created what they personally called 'Deeper Blue'. It beat Kasparov 3.5 to 2.5. On hearing the lengths that IBM went to he asked IBM for a rematch with the condition that he would be allowed to study 'Deeper Blues' strategies.
The chess world is still waiting for IBM to respond.

IBM's problem is simple for them to explain but hard for them to solve. 'A computer cannot be programmed to understand sacrifice.' This is the sentence spoken by an IBM programmer that I base my strategy on.

Poster have mentioned BJ on this thread but I have only been playing Roulette. I started out with 5 playtech casinos and after possibly 2000 bets I noticed a series of occurances that were suspect. I am now playing at one where I started yesterday with €200 and within 1 hour 30 mins I'm over €500. This is from using a 'computer based strategy' that I have been fortunate enough to discover. I will not be sharing it.

All I will say is that, the programs are designed to combat sequences and that they do not understand sacrifice.

My question was: Has anybody else noticed this anomoly? Anybody?

[Westland Bowl]

How can you compare one non-random game to another non-random game? If ones streaks equaled each other, then I'd start to worry; not if they were totally different.

I'm not quite sure I get what you mean. I'm making an assumption that land-based casino blackjack is random through the shuffling and being regulated and all that. So I expect and do experience more of a mixed win/lose outcome. Online is very streaky in comparison, in my view.

[Westland Bowl]

My original question has side tracked into something else.
Allow me to elaborate.

Sorry for hijacking your thread. Sacrifice? As in your bankroll?