POTENTIAL SPAM WARNING!! Player lists for sale.

[Casinomeister]

There is an a-hole out there in cyberland who is attempting to sell player lists. He is contacting various affiliate managers offering to sell this garbage. Fortunately, this was forwarded to me by an affiliate manager who is concerned about this as I am.

For one thing, I think it's bullshit. I really don't think this person has this information. He's contacting people via a yahoo account. And if you're stupid enough to purchase this spam list....

Another thing, most casinos keep their databases encrypted and under lock and key. This guy is trying to come across like this is easily obtainable information.

Also, this is a reason why it is important to sign up at casinos using different email addresses. This way if a database gets compromised, you know where it happened.

Greetings,

I am writing to you to offer you a unique opportunity to obtain large scale databases of known gamblers for use in your direct mail and email marketing activities. The databases listed below are all available for purchase as a package deal at a rate of $15,000 USD. They may only be purchased one time as a package, and not broken up into smaller sales. These are all complete databases with known, purchasing players. If you would like to acquire this data, please reply to this email and I will write back with payment instructions.

Kind regards,

CM702


Aces Gold
Age/Recency: September 26, 2005
Player Count: 1,265
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number, Account Balance, Pending Bets, Last Deposit Amount, Date Opened, IP Address
Additional Notes: 93 accounts have a balance over $10,000

Alladins Gold
Age/Recency: Unspecified Date
Player Count: 64,000
Emails: 100% have email, mailing address and phone number
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number

Atlantis Casino
Age/Recency: June 23, 2005
Player Count: 797,033
Emails: Email Only List
Data Fields Included: Player ID, eMail Address, Total Deposit Amount, Number! of Deposits, Net Win/Loss, Games Bet, Total Bet Amount

BoDog
Age/Recency : November 13, 2005
Player Count: 166,989
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Player ID, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone, Number of Bets Places, Average Bet Amount, Win/Loss Amount, Win/Loss Percentage.
Additional Notes: 74% have total loss percentage. 65% of players have a balance over $500.

Camalot Sportsbook
Age/Recency: Unspecified Date
Player Count: 1,888
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Accou! nt Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Referred By, Payment Method, Account Balance, Total Action, Risk To Player, Risk To House, Net To Player, Hold

CRIS
Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
Player Count: 187,009
Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Account Balance

DelMar
Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
Player Count: 28,955
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Referred By, Payment Method, Account Balance, Total Action, Risk To Player! , Risk To House, Net To Player, Hold

DSI
Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
Player Count: 142,123
Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
Data Fields Included : Account Number, Password, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Account Balance

Gamblers Avenue
Age/Recency: November 14, 2005
Player Count: 86,000
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address

Gold Medal
Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
Player Count: 56,000
Emails! : Email Only List
Data Fields Included: Name, eMail Address

Gold Medal II
Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
Player Count: 18,199
Emails: 2,000 have email and mailing address. Remainder are mailing address only
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address for 2000

Heritage Sports
Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
Player Count: 2,625
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number,

Intertops
Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
! Player Count: 118,000
Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address

Olympic Sports
Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
Player Count: 212,444
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included : Name, Date of Birth, Postal Mailing Addess, Phone Number, eMail Address, Account Balance
Additional Notes: 81% are active players, with 42% having balances over $1500.

Pinnacle
Age/Recency: November 14, 2005
Player Count: 345,027
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal M! ailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number, IP Address

Roxy Palace Casino
Age/Recency: September 6, 2005
Player Count: 19,456
Emails: Email List Only
Data Fields Included: Name, eMail Address

Royal Sports
Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
Player Count: 102,000
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Player ID, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone, Number of Bets Places, Average Bet Amount, Win/Loss Amount, Win/Loss Percentage.
Additional Notes: 91% have losing percentages. 15% have balances over the $1500 average.

(The) Rx
Age/Recency: November 14, 2005
Player Count: 102,000
Emails: 100% Email Only List
Data Fields Included: Name, eMail Address

SirBet
Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
Player Count: 109,056
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Account Balance, Pending Wagers
Additional Notes: 89% having loss percentages - 48% have funds in their account.

Unknown Sportsbook
Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
Player Count: 142,825
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Player ID, Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Total Deposit Amount, Number of Deposits, Net Win/Loss, Number of Games Bet, Total Amount of Bets

Unspecified Listings
Age/Recency: Various Dates
Player Count: 1,200,000
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number
Additional Notes: Some listings contain account balances, preferred payment method, outstanding wagers, credit limits (if applicable)

VIP Sports
Age/Recency: November 13, 2005
Player Count: 218,000
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data F! ields Included: Account Number, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Phone Number, Phone II, eMail Address, Account Balance, Pending Wagers, Last Deposit Amount, Date Opened, IP Address, Credit Limit (If Applicable)

Wallstreet Super Book
Age/Recency: November 12, 2005
Player Count: 30,000
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Name, Date of Birth, Postal Mailing Address, Phone Number, eMail Address, Account Balance
Additional Notes: 89 players have an account balance over $10,000

WWTS
Age/Recency: November 05, 2005
Player Count: 210,385
Emails: Not Represented (Mailing Address Only)
Data Fields Included: Account Number, Name, Postal Mailing Address, Phone Number, Customer Service Notes, Account Balance, eMail Address, Win/Loss Amount, Win/Loss Percentage, IP Address

EZ Bet
Age/Recency: Unspecified Date
Player Count: 1,824
Emails: 100% have both email and mailing address
Data Fields Included: Name, Postal Mailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number

[Simmo!]

What an idiot


(him, not you CM!)

[dominique]

Hmm, I wonder if this is real. It has more detail than the usual scam lists.

But then this could be easily faked.

$15,000 is awfully cheap - unless he plans to sell to all takers. Real opt in lists for sale usually cost ten to twenty times that, cover only one property and are only sold once or twice.

My guess is that this is fake.

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by dominique

...My guess is that this is fake.

That's what I think. The guy's name is in the email (I removed it for the posting) and he has a semi-prominent site (sportbooks).

He probably has made a couple of enemies in this industry and someone is trying to make him look bad.

The reason I'm posting this is to nip this in the bud right off the bat (wow, two idioms in the same sentence!). Purchasing lists like this is nothing but trouble.

[vinylweatherman]

I'm not sure about using different E-mails at diffenent casinos. When I started playing I got the impression that this would get you flagged as "suspicious". I have also been told that I must use the same E-mail address that I use for my deposit options; in particular that my Neteller E-mail must be the same as my casino registered E-mail or I cannot be paid via Neteller. I have not heard anything to contradict this view since.

[uungy]

I am sure with all those names, why not ask for one as a sample! (hope he doesnt give mine as one )

[dominique]

Samples are customary, extensive samples, but I bet this one wouldn't give you any samples.

You can buy junk lists with names all over the place - this maybe some of those, with the guy going through some trouble to make them look gambling oriented.

If he makes enough sales it'll be well worth his trouble.

[schnozzy]

<em>Data Fields Included: Account Number, Password, Name, Postal M! ailing Address, eMail Address, Phone Number, IP Address</em>

All this on a sportsbook that caters towards high-rollers. Yeah, right.

If all my info was really on this list, I'd close my account immediately even if it meant the end of -105 hockey, -104 football, and a Formula 1 handicapper who doesn't seem to follow the sport at all.

Oh, and the WWTS entry apparently doesn't have emails, but also has emails.

[slotchik]

I'll sell you my email for $10.00. You can have it LOL

[rob3786]

I'll undercut him you can have mine for $5 lol I am a high roller (in my scale of things) sometimes I deposit $50 lol