William Hill / Crypto Exposed - Fraudulent claim

[solring]

I would advise totalling up how much you lost at Crypto tables and seek legal counsel before the expected rush for Compensation.

Umm...what compensation is there for those of us who are long-time winners at Cryptologic poker tables?

[scrollock]

from reading through the thread, i guess the fraud is a combination of chip dumping and collusion ?

i dont how much truth there is in the allegations, however i can confirm one thing, and that is you can open up as many accounts as you want with will hill with very little effort.

i guess the reason that the will hill name is being touted about, rather than the whole of cryptologic is the fact that will hill is the weak link in the cypto chain through the fact they wont subscribe to the ecash system, this means that some transactions are beyond the main crypto securities reach.

like everyone else here, ive played at will hill and then have experienced problems, of which i have then emailed the will hill CS and not got a response, due to being unable to use my account i contacted a friend at will hill who i use to work with when i was there.

he told me to just open up a new account, i didnt even need to change my details, i asked "wont the security close my duplicate account down ?" i was then told that the will hill security department (online casino) is virtually non existant.

the online casino security department is non existant, as is the CS for the simple reason that will hill have a fascination with trying to reduce their wage bill to the minimun possible. the manangement see the internet as a staffless business and treat it as such.

if anyone is money laundering / colluding, then it makes sense to do so at will hill due to it having the laxest security in the whole online casino world.

[Casinomeister]

I've submitted a number of pointed questions to the thread creator yesterday evening. It's now early afternoon, and I'm still waiting for a response...

[Webzcas]

I've submitted a number of pointed questions to the thread creator yesterday evening. It's now early afternoon, and I'm still waiting for a response...

Bryan I have been doing a little digging at my end on this and I can tell you the people I know in the industry do not know anything about these claims made by MJones . It will be interesting if you actually get a response.

[Casinomeister]

Ho hum.

mjones hasn't responded to my emails for the past several days, and he hasn't bothered to check the forum either. I feel it's safe to say that this is just another case of someone abusing the forum. What fun.

[shrewd_boy]

Interesting thread with some sensible replies to what sounds like sour grapes.

One point I would make though is in response to scrollock's comments regarding Willhill's online security department, in particular...

"the online casino security department is non existant"

and

"if anyone is money laundering / colluding, then it makes sense to do so at will hill due to it having the laxest security in the whole online casino world."

As a shareholder of William Hill and several other gaming companies (including Crypto) I would take issue with these comments. A quick look at the yearly financial results of WH shows that they have some of the lowest Chargeback rates in the industry.

I seem to remember from previous posts that scrollock worked in the shops for Billy Hills, what therefore qualifies you to comment on their Internet operations?

[Casinomeister]

I just want to emphasize that this claim by mjones is completely false and without merit. Besides his disappearance from the forum, and non-response to several of my emails, I've just spoken with one of the WH managers over the phone about this. It's my opinion that we have another incident of someone abusing this forum by disseminating bogus information - trying to harm someone's business.

Member branded "fraudster" and banned forever.

[suzecat]

With so many industry experts a part of this forum, you gotta wonder how posters like this think they can get away with rumor-mongering. This guy was nailed on the first page of this thread and bolted. I don't get it--what's the point? A large charge?

[Casinomeister]

With so many industry experts a part of this forum, you gotta wonder how posters like this think they can get away with rumor-mongering. This guy was nailed on the first page of this thread and bolted. I don't get it--what's the point? A large charge?

This forum has a very high profile and disgruntled players will take advantage of this. Even though issues like this are dissected by the wise ones, fairness is exercised and a certain amount of "benefit of the doubt" is given to these posters. In a nutshell, we expect people to be honest.

I'm not saying this is the case, but if you lose a lot of money at a casino - take a look at yourself and do something about your behaviour. Don't try and damage someone else's business. Will Hill employs a lot of people who are just ordinary folk trying to put food on the table. Mjones should be ashamed of himself.