Microgaming Player profiling?

[jamiester]

Dude, you're supposed to lose when you're playing -EV games. How much did you wager to lose that $50,000? Probably 2-3 million right?

No DUDE, My wife and bought in for $60,000 total and have only been able to cash out for a total of $10,000

And it is not the amount of money I am complaining about, Its that we could never win. So DUDE they are taking more than .5-5% from us wouldn't it seem. We never bet the minimum but the next level up. Average wager was about 90 cent to $1.50.

cashing out 10K on a 60K deposit doesn't mean you had a .16667 return. You need to divide your total amount won by your total amount bet. If you deposit 60K, then it is likely, even on slots, that you actually wagered over $1 million. Even on a game that pays out 99.9% you can lose 50K, 100K, 1 million, any amount of money if you keep playing long enough (and keep turning the money over).

[esquirexx]

I win money from playing.If I win through the agency of cheating,I say to all casino operators ''please continue cheating..if you can do please do more cheating''
: )

[goodie2shoes]

I tend to agree with the player profiling theory. I do not have any proof other than $50,000 dollars in losses and "looser" gaming experience each time my wife and I threaten to take our money elsewhere. VIP or Micrgaming, doesn't really matter to me who is cheating me, I just feel cheated. We play allslots and Wildjack because they seemed to be good at first(lol). We are requesting that they close are accounts today as there is no recourse to the foul treatment.



I have split this off from an old thread which was inexplicably resurrected and does not appear to have anything to do with the post - Spearmaster

Hello first I want to say hi this is my first post. I have been playing at wild jacks for two years and what has happen to this person has happen to me to, I havent lost as much money, but when i first started playing i did great and now i cant seem to hit a thing. Now this might seem strange but i do notice one thing and this is if i dont play for awhile i seem to do better. I think wild jack has great customer service and they are very good at there bonuses on your play. I dont know anything about this kind of stuff, but can this really happen?

[spearmaster]

If player profiling were occurring, it would require very intense monitoring of thousands of players at any one time. This would require a huge amount of resources which would be nearly impossible to manage.

That having been said, if profiling were happening, why do I not seem to be affected? And before anyone points out that I might be known to them, I should point out that I lose way more often than I win.

If you were being profiled, almost surely you would be nickeled-and-dimed to death, there is no way they would let you have decent wins, or just constant losing - I believe that people are simply forgetting that the house always has an edge when gambling and thus one should EXPECT to lose. If you win, surely you aren't being profiled, eh?

The Winners Screenshot threads should somewhat disprove the theory of profiling - as you can see, there have been many wins, and many BIG wins to boot, and from many different players. Plus at least a few forum visitors have hit progressive jackpots.

[goodie2shoes]

Thank you very much for your reply, what you say in your reply makes a lot of sense.

[spearmaster]

... and by the way I agree about Wild Jack - they will take good care of you there.

[Petunia]

** My idea on Gambling: It is not an investment. IF it was, even the best of investments can go belly up sometimes!

My question is this…

Has there ever been a time during this period where the stakes were UP and you continued to play?

It is ‘easy’ to loose that amount of money, and it IS a big amount, but over what period of time? Loosing that much in ‘one sitting’ seems to be extravagant to start with.

Being an avid slots player myself… I can easily establish when I’m on a ‘loosing streak’, and I am SURE with that amount at my disposal, it would have been even easier to get a ‘fever’ and continue playing, even when I realised that I am breaking even or loosing it all!

I am sorry to hear about your losses, but as it has been pointed out, one should always try to be sensible in your game-play.
I don’t think it is a matter of cheating by the Casino/Software Provider. I do think it is a matter of “being caught up in the game, and loosing sight of your overall spend”.

I myself used to be freaked out when I realise that the casino was gobbling my cash up… until I changed my frame of mind. I could always go buy some Durban Poison with it and just smoke the lot! *grin * When its gone it is gone… ‘Better luck next time!” **