Skykings promotion not honored

[caruso]

To argue that a bonus requiring a deposit is not a "deposit" bonus simply because they've named it something else is taking semantics to an absurd extreme.

If you deposit to get a bonus, it's a "deposit bonus". That they call it the Blackjack Bonus, Baccarat Bonus or Britney Spears Candy Floss bonus is neither here nor there. You deposited.

Their bonus policies are clearly designed with theft in mind, no question about that ("...not limited to", gimme a break). However, this is not the case here.

[Benj]

Man, they're pretty clear all over their site that they reserve the right to keep bonus monies for any reason at any time as well as many other charming online casino bad practices.

Surely nonsense. Such a rule can be used to cancel all promotions.

[Stanford]

To argue that a bonus requiring a deposit is not a "deposit" bonus simply because they've named it something else is taking semantics to an absurd extreme.

If you deposit to get a bonus, it's a "deposit bonus". That they call it the Blackjack Bonus, Baccarat Bonus or Britney Spears Candy Floss bonus is neither here nor there. You deposited.

Question - is the extra payment made per blackjack sticky or can one withdraw it?

In either case, I disagree. The action immediately proximate to receiving the extra payment is receiving a blackjack. Other actions such as sign on and deposit are incidental.

And as always the drawer of the terms should have any controversey constured against them. That is the common method of settling disputes because it is bad form to trap consumers using ambiguous terms. Had the terms been clear to you, you would not have withdrawn your deposit till you received this payment.

If the extra bonus amount received because of a blackjack is non sticky it becomes even more clear.

Stanford.

[caruso]

Other actions such as sign on and deposit are incidental.

Only in your opinion. The terms as the casino states them - at least THESE terms, not the "...but not limited to" nonsense - are clear. To suggest that the "deposit" aspect is superceded by "blackjack" aspect really is pushing it some. Specific to the rules were "you must deposit", there was no option to play on a current balance. This was a bonus that required a deposit. There is no way around that.

As I said earlier, I also fell foul of this "withdrawal voids bonus" rule. I had no problem with them invoking it because it's clearly stated. If it hadn't been, I'd have complained.

[Stanford]

[QUOTE=caruso] This was a bonus that required a deposit. There is no way around that.

QUOTE]

I am not sure it did or didn't. But the bonus was one not granted for the deposit. I am not sure I would call it a bonus. More of a rule change.

However, if you can answer my question, you may come to a different conclusion. Once the extra amount is awarded, is it sticky?

Stanford.

[caruso]

However, if you can answer my question, you may come to a different conclusion. Once the extra amount is awarded, is it sticky?

Yes, it is. All their promos are sticky, including this one.

For the rest, this isn't going anywhere so I'll back out of the discussion.

[Benj]

Originally Posted by mary
Man, they're pretty clear all over their site that they reserve the right to keep bonus monies for any reason at any time as well as many other charming online casino bad practices.

Surely nonsense. Such a rule can be used to cancel all promotions.

Mary, I apologize if I offended you. I meant that using "we have the right" rule is nonsense.

[Benj]

Does anyone have an idea how to reach the management of skykings?

Owner's details as well as the management of their land based casino would also help.

Reaching the management through the support was impossible (guess why?)

[mary]

Registrant:
Sky International Casinos Ltd (SKYKINGSCASINO-COM-DOM)
6 Temple Street
St Johns, Antigua
Antigua and Barbuda
+44.2086008250
+44.2086008350
kelly@eventusworldwide.com

Domain Name: SKYKINGSCASINO.COM

Administrative Contact:
Kelly Marriott kelly@eventusworldwide.com
Eventus Worldwide
1A The Broadway
Hammersmith, London W69DL
United Kingdom
+44.02086008250
Fax- +44.2086008250

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
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1A The Broadway
Hammersmith
London, London W69DL
United Kingdom
+44.2086008250
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[mary]

LOCATION: Hotel Casino Sol de Plata
Dominican Republic
FACILITIES: -
OPERATOR: Sky International Group
UPDATED: 9/24/2002


COMMENTS: Mailing address:
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P.O. Box 02-5548 Miami
Florida 33102, USA

Sky International Group of Casinos, which was founded in 1989. Sky currently operates 3,500 Slot Machines in South America, 6 land based casinos in major hotel chains and 44 Sports betting shops.

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702-256-5921 or 877-842-1238
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