Kiss Casino Ripped me OFF

[lacypuff]

Minor is not a defined term. If I'm over the age of 18 in Indiana I'm considered an adult not a minor.

Andrew Hurt

[Macgyver]

Minor is not a defined term. If I'm over the age of 18 in Indiana I'm considered an adult not a minor.

Andrew Hurt

Did you not check the link Bryan posted?

Summary of Laws in Indiana dealing with age

Mind you, it deals specifically with alcoholic beverages and higher education, but it's a loophole that the casino could use to indicate they believe you to be a minor, even though you are 18.

[lacypuff]

According to Indiana Law and the Officer that I just spoke to in Posey County, anyone that that is 18 years and age and older is considered an adult and is prosecuted as an adult under the court of law. Anyone under the age of 18 is considered a juvenile/minor. I received this information after contacting the police department. Matter of fact this is phone number that I called.

Indiana - Posey County Dispatch at (812) 838-1320

Thanks
Andrew Hurt

[Casinomeister]

According to Indiana Law and the Officer that I just spoke to in Posey County, anyone that that is 18 years and age and older is considered an adult and is prosecuted as an adult under the court of law. Anyone under the age of 18 is considered a juvenile/minor. I received this information after contacting the police department. Matter of fact this is phone number that I called.

Indiana - Posey County Dispatch at (812) 838-1320

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Andrew Hurt

Instead of calling the Posey County dispatcher, I'd call a lawyer and ask them if you are considered a minor in respect to gambling. And then explain what happened. We could go back and forth all night on this one. The casino obviously feels you are considered a minor in your jurisdiction, and they are right to an extent. But there is no reason to split hairs on this one.

And an after-thought. Let's say you contact this lawyer, and he/she states that you would be considered a full-fledged adult, able to gamble your brains out in any casino in Indiana. Do you think Kiss casino would take this information into consideration? Perhaps understanding that a 19 year old is of the "age of majority".

I don't think so. Looks like you've burned all your bridges here.

[jpm]

I believe that you need to be 21 to play in any casino in the US. I seem to remember signs to that effect in every casino I've visited.

Interesting story along the same lines. In Connecticut about a year or so ago, there was a guy playing Caribbean Stud progressive at Foxwoods Casino. He was dealt a royal and had his $1 in the slot for the $170K+ progressive jackpot and 'won' it. That was until they checked his ID and found that he was under 21. He was given back his stake and escorted out the door without the $170K. Last I read, he had a lawyer suing them, but I doubt he got anywhere with it.

[buck]

I would tend to agree that you are out of luck. However with the reputation that Kiss has for slow paying legit players why would one play at the site?

Customer service has contacted me to comeback but when I mention the slow pay, they simply say they understand.

Legal recourse is nill in the states.

Suggest you wait till you are legal.

Buck

[unicorn40]

If being under the age of 21 is a standard requirement for online casinos, why did Slotland pay a 20 year old who hit the progressive jackpot?

Student Gambler Wins $111,652 Slot Jackpot While Playing Online At Slot-Land...

A very lucky student, and one of the youngest online winners to date, has won a progressive jackpot, worth $111,652 at "Slot-land "

Miss Kannonbell (her username), a 20-year-old student from North America, has managed an out of this world experience when her planets lined up (literally). The machine she was playing on at the time was called Magic, which is a five-line slot, and one of nine machines that participate in the "Slot-land progressive jackpot."

When contacted and asked for comment Miss Kannonbell replied,
?My 20th birthday was early in September, and this happening so soon after is unbelievable. I play for fun not expecting to win big. You can't imagine what it feels like to be rich all of a sudden! I stared at the screen and my account balance had over $112,000. All I can remember doing is screaming for joy!

When asked what she was going to do with the money she replied," I will pay off my student loan and fund my college education."
A spokesperson from Slot-land, Hannah Morante commented, "We are truly excited about the Progressive being won. At "Slot-land" we have a history of fulfilling dreams and believe that with this win, one more has come true."

The T&C from Kiss casino's home page did NOT specify an age.
It would have been much clearer had the T&C said:

"YOU MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE, OR OLDER TO PLAY OUR CASINO FOR REAL MONEY"

[jpm]

If being under the age of 21 is a standard requirement for online casinos, why did Slotland pay a 20 year old who hit the progressive jackpot?

The T&C from Kiss casino's home page did NOT specify an age.
It would have been much clearer had the T&C said:

"YOU MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE, OR OLDER TO PLAY OUR CASINO FOR REAL MONEY"

Perhaps she was from a country OTHER than the US. We aren't the only one's in north america. Or Slotland has a different rule that Kiss. They are completely separate organizations after all.

This is not to say that Kiss doesn't suck anyway. From other posts here even before this latest incident, they clearly are not a trustworthy casino. And I agree, they should have something very clear in their T&C that says exactly what you said above. But that remove one of their sneaky little loopholes!

[jinnia]

Age of Majority in the jurisdiction you live; is what it states in all T&C's I've read. And Indiana, I believe I read that's where this player said they live is:

INDIANA

Lottery: Minimum age is 18. Prizes may not be paid to anyone under 18, unless the ticket was received as a gift. Indiana Code §§4-30-9-3, 4-30-11-3, 4-30-12-1, and 4-30-13-1.

Parimutuel betting: Minimum age to bet seems to be always 18, although the law sets slightly different ages for being present at tracks and OTB outlets.

(a) A person less than eighteen (18) years of age may not wager at a horse racing meeting.

(b) A person less than seventeen (17) years of age may not enter the grandstand, clubhouse, or similar areas of a racetrack at which wagering is permitted unless accompanied by a person who is at least twenty-one (21) years of age.

(c) A person less than eighteen (18) years of age may not enter a satellite facility.

Id. at §4-31-7-2(2).

Minimum age to work at a racetrack is 16, but the racing commission can license even younger children who are working for their parent or legal guardian. Id. at §4-31-6-5.

Casinos: Indiana has riverboat gambling; the current controversy is whether the boats actually have to sail. Anyone under 21 is prohibited from being in the area of a riverboat where gambling is being conducted; although, the minimum age for an occupational license is 18. Id. at §§4-33-8-3 and 4-33-9-12.

Bingo and pull-tabs: Players must be 18 or older. Id. at §4-32-9-34; Indiana Administrative Code tit. 45, regulation 18-3-2 (Department of State Revenue).

[Lurkio]

Jeez...

It couldnt be clearer..hes underage..end of story..I like the domain though.. but i doubt it will do your case much good!

Junior..

Did Kiss do the right thing and refund your original stake or not?