Crystal Palace Probation?

**jpm** · 1st October 2004, 10:31 PM

gambling-grumbles.com

Looks like one of Julie's relatives has taken the baton.

**Dirk Diggler** · 2nd October 2004, 03:05 PM

Looks like I spoke too soon - I have now been paid the full $12,450 outstanding.

**lanidar** · 2nd October 2004, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Looks like I spoke too soon - I have now been paid the full $12,450 outstanding.

I'm TRULY happy that you've been paid.
IMO one of the reasons CLOUD paid you was because he knows this thread is being read by hundreds of posters. The other is that CLOUD is attemting to get back into the good graces of Bryan.
$12,450.00 is a small price to pay for advertizing.
No matter what the reason why you were paid...the bottom line is the money is in YOUR pocket.
GOOD LUCK...ENJOY IT...

**Dirk Diggler** · 2nd October 2004, 04:31 PM

I've no doubt that's the case - it's amazing what a post on this forum can do.

**mimmu12** · 12th October 2004, 01:58 PM

Hi there. This is my first post at the forum. I decided to give the infamous "cloud" casinos a GO. When i read about the probation.
I met the bonus conditions, and withdrew only my own deposit of 125$ at highrollerslounge. I have emailed them about 4-5 times, and sent the documents mentioned on their website 2 times. I havent recieved any replies back to my 4-5 emails. Also they havent paid me and it has been 2 weeks.

I am starting to think that they are back up to their normal profile=not paying players. And maybe the only reason dirk got paid, is because he posted here, so "cloud" though, i have to pay this one, in order to get more depositing players in here.

This is really sad, and i hope i do get paid. The only reason i thought id give them a go, is because of the probation, but i guess i should have known better, because cloud has been stiffing players since the birth of online casinos. Also this is the first "cloud" casino i have ever played, and i followed their terms and conditions thoroughly.

I honestly hope that the cloud casinos would get better, and everyone could safely play there, but this appears not to be the case.

-mimmu12

**lanidar** · 12th October 2004, 02:30 PM

This is really sad, and i hope i do get paid. The only reason i thought id give them a go, is because of the probation.

This is really SAD!

And maybe the only reason dirk got paid, is because he posted here, so "cloud" though, i have to pay this one, in order to get more depositing players in here.

That's probably the truth!

Also this is the first "cloud" casino i have ever played, and i followed their terms and conditions thoroughly.

Sad to say...but all of us who have gotten screwed by CLOUD met all the T&C's. I TRULY hope you at least get back your deposit.
And MAYBE...just MAYBE this post will help keep poeople AWAY from playing at ANY of CLOUDS casinos!!!

IMO ALL Clouds casinos should be on the rogue list.

**jpm** · 12th October 2004, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by mimmu12

Hi there. This is my first post at the forum. I decided to give the infamous "cloud" casinos a GO. When i read about the probation.

FYI, they never were put on probation, Bryan decided not to do this.

**lanidar** · 12th October 2004, 10:53 PM

So, from the way this ( http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/crystalpalace.html ) reads, and this is MY interpretation, we are in a holding pattern...a wait and watch while this scum of the Internet continues to steal players money?
How about mimmu12? This looks like one of HIS typical moves.
If I were a betting man...mimmu12 loses...Cloud wins...once again!

**jpm** · 12th October 2004, 11:09 PM

From a post by Bryan in this thread a few pages back...

Originally Posted by casinomeister

Well after a lot of thought and going back and forth on this, I decided to do away with the probabtion/redemption section. It was far to complex and problematic to begin with.

If casinos screw up - they screw up - and if it's serious enough to cause grief to players, they are rogued or "not recommended" and there they dwell.
But I have to keep things updated. If casinos are making serious changes in fixing whatever was screwed up, then in my opinion their screwups can become "Past Issues".
http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.html#issues

In my opinion, this is much better than some arbitrary "probation" period, or better than me waving my magic voodoo stick over some casino operation declaring them redeemed. That's ridiculous.

Past issues are just that - past issues. There is no time limit. And the casino operators know that everyone (who cares) is watching them. Their feet will always be held to the fire because they know they need to continue doing what is expected of them.

I think this will work much better for everyone. And players are given more responsiblity to be able to make intelligent choices on their own - this is an important thing.

I want to thank all of you for your suggestions and feedback. I've used a number of your comments here:
http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/crystalpalace.html

**Dirk Diggler** · 13th October 2004, 12:14 AM

To me probation IS pretty much the same as past issues - they both imply (IMO) that the casino has acted badly in the past but seems to be sorting themselves out.

From my experience with the Cloud empire they will pay you as long as you put your case in the public eye - but I'm sure (well at least I believe) that if you didn't they would simply ignore you.

This seems to be the case with many of the RTG's, which is bad form - but I can see why they would do this. It's only avoiding bad publicity they're interesting in - not doing the right thing.