How Can Anyone Play At SlotLand???

[Vesuvio]

Why would a casino where you can only play slots want to exclude anyone?

Almost all players will lose their deposits and there's no strategy where you'd expect to come off with a profit from the bonus.

Come to think of it, maybe I'll set up a similar casino (with some decent software so players can lose money quicker!)

[maxfalcon]

I knew of a player who wanted to quit playing Slotland after losing too much but they offered him $50 for 'reasons for quitting' and even after he still wanted the account closed, they offered $100 if he ever wanted to return!

They don't block players from reopening an account and playing again if they tell Slotland they have been spending too much and want to be blocked. He said he reopened his account many times until he got fed up with them. They must completely wipe the credit card databases when an account is closed because players can keep using the same credit card when they reopen accounts!

Hannah, could you please comment on this?

Why would a casino where you can only play slots want to exclude anyone?

Almost all players will lose their deposits and there's no strategy where you'd expect to come off with a profit from the bonus.

Come to think of it, maybe I'll set up a similar casino (with some decent software so players can lose money quicker!)

Slots are slots, point. This is a slots casino... We all know what is the outcome of slots! Very few people do win big, if you are lucky, and a lot lose money, while some have average wins. After all, gambling is at first a game of luck, nothing else. (I don't want to bring the point if gambling is entertainment - enough discussed about that at WinnerOnline! ). However, I prefer playing ten times at slots than one time at national lotteries...

[dominique]

Slotland has HTML games. They are extremely easy to use. They are the ONLY type games that can be played by people on browsers like webtv, aol and so on.

Would you like me to send those guys to 1cnp? Or perhaps casino VR?

I myself play Booster and I love it and you can play for a long time for little money.

Slotland gives away free money every month via their newsletter - you can win playmoney there. All my players like that.

Slotland is not like RTG or Microgaming, it has a different type of software. I realize that HTML software lacks the speed and polished look of other softwares. But I find them always honest and this is the very first time I see a complaint. They are almost like a cult casino - they have a very loyal following. The players who like the software stick for years. There has to be a reason for that.

I resent Caruso attacking my integrity because I like to send newbies to places that are simple to play and figure out. It beats sending them to places where they will get screwed because they happened to play BJ instead of slots.

If there weren't the majority of players playing for entertainment only, there would not be any casinos for many of you to play at. For a new player looking for lots of unfettered play for their money, with no complicated wagering requirements, Slotland is great.

My players tell me so and I agree.

[HateMG]

It could be interesting except for this words
unless terms and conditions for a particular bonus are stated to be otherwise
And I was not able, for example, to find any info on the 100% sign up bonus.
Is it also 1X?!?

As I remember when you try to register there is fine print at the bottom of the page which says sign up bonus + deposit should be wagered 8 times.

[Vesuvio]

Dominique,

I've no problems with you making money from people going to casinos from your site, but you do seem to go a bit far with Slotland!

http://www.gamesandcasino.com/casinogames_wtv.htm

"SLOTLAND is one of the biggest and most reputable online casinos on the net! Slotland definitely offers the most generous bonus program available! 100% Sign-up bonus up to $100."

Not sure how big they are, but 'the most generous bonus program'?

Maybe it's a casino of last resort for anyone who connects to the internet with some strange technology that prevents them using normal software, but surely nothing more.

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by hhcfreebie

Same here.
Can you imagine a payout of 85% or so betting 50 cents per hand?
That's why i stopped playing with slotland a few months ago. I don't feel I even stand a remote chance of winning. The only JoB with even worse payout is Gambling Federation (around 75%).
Yes, their CS is great and they always pay on time, if you still have some money left to withdraw that is.
As for Slotland, if you are reading this, would you please change the name of "Classic Jack or Better" to "Jack or Better Slot"? I don't mind if you lower your payout on any of your slots but video pokers, by difinition, should be random.

Slots are random, too, or at least should be. The opposite of random is deterministic. On a typical reeled slot, the positions on each reel are weighted with certain probabilities and the reels are independent of each other. In some online casinos the casino operator may be able to adjust the probabilites and change the expected return of the machine. However, if the machine claims to model BJ or VP, then it should deal the cards with the correct probabilities. If it does not, and it is not made clear in the rules, then the game is rigged and the casino should be blacklisted.

[hhcfreebie]

Originally Posted by GrandMaster

Slots are random, too, or at least should be. The opposite of random is deterministic. On a typical reeled slot, the positions on each reel are weighted with certain probabilities and the reels are independent of each other. In some online casinos the casino operator may be able to adjust the probabilites and change the expected return of the machine. However, if the machine claims to model BJ or VP, then it should deal the cards with the correct probabilities. If it does not, and it is not made clear in the rules, then the game is rigged and the casino should be blacklisted.

What I meant was, VP should be randomly drawn from a shoe of cards.
As it stands now, the result of their JoB is random generated with a fixed payoout.
IMO, slotland is very straight forward and seems to be reliable. I don't think they would pretend its a 100% VP on purpose. They also post somewhere in their website their card games are generated with weighted RNG. If they want to they can call their space jack game "blackjack" as well, but they didn't.
All they need to do is just to change the name of their JoB to JoB slot, then I'll have no problem whatsoever with them.
Off topic, I always wonder what if I don't play by basic strategy with a JoB.

[caruso]

It gets worse. Below the quoted passage from Dominique's site above is this gem: "At Slotland, you will find great games with unique designs and great pay tables."

Great paytables, gimme a break. What "paytables"? There ARE no paytables apart from JOB, which masquerades as 9/6 but is in fact another slot machine. Where does this "great paytables" come from?

Originally Posted by dominique

Would you like me to send those guys to 1cnp? Or perhaps casino VR?...It beats sending them to places where they will get screwed because they happened to play BJ instead of slots.

You suggest that only the WORST alternatives are viable? If you want to send players to casinos where they stand a chance, send them to Crypto for the single deck game, MG or the same, RTG for the pontoon... to name just three of the best - there are many more. They'll have their ups and downs, but overall they'll get good bang for their bucks. DON'T send them to ripoff joints masquerading as "good" because they pay fast. This is the WORST casino on the net in ALL other senses, and to make a point of advocating them to newbies, whilst stopping short of roguedom, is certainly portalling at its worst, and how anyone can "resent" being called on it is beyond me.

(Roguedom - LOL, neat pun.)

[dominique]

You suggest that only the WORST alternatives are viable?

The page is called Webtv Casinos.

For webtv users and aol browsers and a slew of other platforms, which is the only group of players that particular page adresses, I have found the following choices:

Slotland
Iglobal
VR
1cnp

Actually there is another obscure group out there - consisting of Hotjokerpoker, Tiffany's Casino, Double Deuce Casino, Silver Streak Casino, Gamble Girls Casino, Oriental Casino, Galactica Casino, Olympic Casino, Lucky Streak Casino.

Maybe I should send them there like lambs to the slaughter?

All the text on that page and any other page they appear on is quoted directly from Slotland. I have no reason to doubt them - Bryan lists them as recommended for new players, and I have only heard good things about them.

If you don't like to play HTML software, don't. But don't try to convince me that people with odd browsers have to play at known rogue casinos.

[sirius]

In case anyone missed reading this from my link I posted, this is the reply received by someone on this thread I contacted recently to test out Slotland's policy about closing accounts. He had already successfully had his account closed by them without them offering bonuses to stay, unlike the other person I mentioned before, but they can't prevent people signing up again.

Dear [name removed],

You are absolutely welcome.

Unfortunately, that is not possible, sorry.

Please, let me know, if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
George
Slotland Customer Service
http://www.slotland.com




At 12:52 AM 7/27/2004, you wrote:
>Thank you very much,
>
>can you make sure that I will not be able to sign-up at your casino again
>because I´ve already been losing too much at your place.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>[name removed]