Lasseters BJ

[hip_hop]

I contactacted some bloke from the Aussie government looking for a confirmation of how the Lasseters BJ game is dealt. The response suggests each hand is dealt from an eight deck shoe (newly shuffled) rather than the old infinite deck.

At one time I was searching some Northern Territories legislation and I found one reference to how games are dealt. I looked again but can't find it now (I guess I should have made a copy). The legislation states that any game that simulates a device must be accurate. The example given was for dice rather than cards. That scared me a bit as the one game Lasseters doesn't have is craps. I would interpret a deck of cards as being a 'device' but I certainly could see a corporate body seeing it differently. I can envision a casino suggesting that an ace of spades is just a symbol much like a blazing seven and if they get told otherwise, Oh well, pay the $2000 fine.

I have been taking a beating here for over a year now, and am down several thousand dollars. I am attempting to soldier on as I believe that they offer a real game of blackjack. The fact that my long term return is right around the -3.5% really bothers me, though. Let's just say I won't be really surprised if the game turns out to be a slot. But as for now I am going to continue under the assumption that they offer a square game (crappy -- but square).

The new wagering requirements have been in place for some time now but I'm not sure the exact date. So if you've just started a new promo you're kind of stuck.

Hip Hop

[DeMango]

Please give us a good reason why you would continue playing after losing thousands and claiming a return of 96.5% ?

[eek]

I have been a Lasseters apologist for years and LOVED the Access software for BJ. I could happily play for hours.

Its different software now and I must admit its a tight game, (to put it politely).

The last time I played I lost my discipline and started to double down just to watch that dealer kick my ass.
(I suppose you could say that I turned to the 'entertainment' part of gambling )

[cipher]

I contactacted some bloke from the Aussie government looking for a confirmation of how the Lasseters BJ game is dealt. The response suggests each hand is dealt from an eight deck shoe (newly shuffled) rather than the old infinite deck.

At one time I was searching some Northern Territories legislation and I found one reference to how games are dealt. I looked again but can't find it now (I guess I should have made a copy). The legislation states that any game that simulates a device must be accurate. The example given was for dice rather than cards. That scared me a bit as the one game Lasseters doesn't have is craps. I would interpret a deck of cards as being a 'device' but I certainly could see a corporate body seeing it differently. I can envision a casino suggesting that an ace of spades is just a symbol much like a blazing seven and if they get told otherwise, Oh well, pay the $2000 fine.

I have been taking a beating here for over a year now, and am down several thousand dollars. I am attempting to soldier on as I believe that they offer a real game of blackjack. The fact that my long term return is right around the -3.5% really bothers me, though. Let's just say I won't be really surprised if the game turns out to be a slot. But as for now I am going to continue under the assumption that they offer a square game (crappy -- but square).

The new wagering requirements have been in place for some time now but I'm not sure the exact date. So if you've just started a new promo you're kind of stuck.

Hip Hop

I can give it to you short and simple. In my opinion Lasseter's Blackjack is a world class rip off and Chris McIntyre from the Australian Gaming Commission would'nt know a straight game of Blackjack if it slapped him in the face. If you stick around this joint you deserve everything you get. Have a good one.

[bethug]

thanks cipher, for telling the truth

[Freudian]

I have deposited four times at this casino. (570$ deposit, 400$ bonus recieved). I have cashed out two times for 900$ in total. Probably wagered over $20k.

There are definately a lot of moments where you think "this feels a bit odd" though but as evidenced by my results I never felt like I was taken to the cleaners. My biggest gripe is that it is horribly slow.

[summertime]

thanks X2 Cipher

[sw2003]

I can give it to you short and simple. In my opinion Lasseter's Blackjack is a world class rip off and Chris McIntyre from the Australian Gaming Commission would'nt know a straight game of Blackjack if it slapped him in the face. If you stick around this joint you deserve everything you get. Have a good one.

Cipher, have you used your program on their BJ game? It sounds like you have and saw things that should not be there in a fair game?

[cipher]

Cipher, have you used your program on their BJ game? It sounds like you have and saw things that should not be there in a fair game?

Hi sw2003; Yes, I have used Cipher to record several sessions at Lasseters and yes I have seen some very peculiar runs. Not the least of which was a run of 37 in a row of pushes and/or losses. They hold the distinction for the worst run I've ever recorded.

Lastly, if you do put a withdawal request in, you can fully expect it to take the better part of two weeks to receive your check if not more because of Lassester's arcane and mandatory rule of mailing your first withdawal to you by check. Then be prepared to have your bank put a sizeable "hold" on that check until it clears as well.

These people need to wake up and take a few lessons from their country man Dean at the Phoenician, especially if they're as well heeled as Lasseter's claim they are. Have a good one.

[hip_hop]

Please give us a good reason why you would continue playing after losing thousands and claiming a return of 96.5% ?

No can do. Let's put it this way. A couple of months ago I visited Las Vegas with the missus. I played extensively at the Las Vegas club in a good single deck game. I counted cards and played a mild three to one spread. I was playing about thirty to maybe one hundred and ten dollars max. Over this weekend I would have put in about $130000 in play, about the same as I currently have a Lasseters. Guess what? I dropped six grand. Six grand in a good game with a max bet of just over $100! Again, about the same as I am suffering at Lasseters. I don't go around shouting how the Las Vegas Club cheats at their single deck blackjack.

Do I have a good reason to keep playing? Nope. But I have yet to see a good reason to stop. Not here or anywhere else. As soon as someone like the Wizard of Odds or maybe 60 minutes makes a solid claim of cheating I'll bail. Until then, I'm not quick to react to knee jerk accusations that pop up so frequently.

And before those of you that believe that these casinos all cheat jump all over me about being a shill let me say something. I don't THINK they cheat but I don't KNOW if they do. As I said above, I'm just waiting for some proof. Then I quit online and buy a ticket to Vegas.

Hip Hop