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Thread: MicroGaming System's Software Suspicious Random Generation????

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    Inetwiz Guest
    Suspicious "Random" Numbers' Generation

    It appears the Microgaming gambling software is calculating table payouts before actual virtual spinning of the "Randomly" generated numbers appearing on the roulette wheel. Before writing this statement, I experienced first hand the following events, with about $1700 in real credit card losses.

    I play Roulette frequently at several different internet online casino sites. Recently, I was participating in play with Orbital Casino’s (licensed to conduct business in Curaçao) downloaded computer software. I covered the entire table except one number, that number appeared as the so called random number. I thought that was overly suspicious. I then covered that number and uncovered another number. That uncovered number appeared.

    Next, I divided the table in half 1-18 and 19-36. I covered the 1-18 numbers. So called "Random" numbers appeared in 19-36 for all the plays I had the 1-18 numbers covered. I then asked myself what would happen if I would then cover 19-36 numbers. The opposite end of the table (1-18 numbers) consistently appeared on the wheel.

    Finally, I then covered quadrants (first 12, second 12, and third 12). If any two of the numbered quadrants were covered with bets, the third quadrant "Random" numbers would appear as long as the the quadrant wasn't covered with any bet. The roulette numbers were random in that essentially quadrant devoid of bets coverage.

    Test the above scenarios. I'm sure you will arrive at the same conclusion. Microgaming Systems, an offshore gambling software company, has a serious program coding (cheating??) issue in their software or someone @ the casino site has tampered with the integrity of the software’s ability to truly generate "Random" numbers on the internet roulette wheel. PricewaterhouseCoopers, Inc., located in South Africa, verifies all site games payout ratios to be in some range of 90% or higher. It just so happens that PricewaterhouseCoopers, Inc. is engaged by Microgamimg Systems as their independent accountants for this purpose. Also take note, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Inc. does not ensure the integrity of the Microgaming software games only the payout ratios. ?????Fox Guarding the Hen House?????

    This puts to question other games at other site utilizing this Microgamimg gambling software and may translate to internet extreme player cash losses, a definite casino player non-benefit or another SCAM. I should point out all players in the online casino gaming presentation are offshore(Outside the U.S. jurisdictional arena). No recourse or protection for wronged online casino players.

    Microgaming Systems in United Kingdom
    PricewaterhouseCoopers, Inc. in Johannesburg, South Africa
    Orbital Casino is licensed to conduct business in Curaçao

    Sincerely,
    inetwiz

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    Anonymous Guest
    From what I understand is that there are numerous
    variables here.

    First, a random number generator on a computer requires a
    "seed" to activate it. The most common seed is the time of
    day which could be broken down into the number of
    milliseconds since midnight. If you are playing an online
    casino at the same time of day, it could be that you are
    getting results for that time of day - if so, try various
    times of the day and see if the results change.

    What you might be seeing is that some electronic games are
    programed for a guaranteed payout such as 92% which is what
    the VLT's do here. In this case, the result of the game is
    predetermined prior to your next play. In this case, the
    results that you see *cannot* possibly be completely
    random. When the machine becomes "loaded", it dumps.
    Unfortunately, this event in itself appears random so it is
    difficult to determine just when it is going to happen. So
    check the casinos you are monitoring to see if they
    advertise this "guaranteed payout" which implies a
    non-random payout.

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    Alleyoops24 Guest
    Inetwiz,

    You are obviously much more technically oriented than I, but I agree that something stinks in this random generator system. At the very least, there's more to it than they're letting us know. I'll tell you my experience without comment on the technical side.

    For last month+, I've played at ALLSLOTS, a random generator online casino. And lost my butt. A couple of times I'd hit a little, but I'd think--based on my cumulative losses--more had to be coming and keep playing. Bigger payoffs just didn't happen. Every time I tried, it would play down to nothing.

    Well, anyway, I decided to write about my experience on ALLSLOTS. I've done some random writing for a few magazines--and since I've got compulsive gambler tendencies and online anything is hot these days--I thought my personal experience might get some print.

    So I wrote to ALLSLOTS asking for more info about their payouts, free play vs. real play, etc., and they quickly provided answers. At the same time, I let them know I was asking the question(s) because I did some writing and intended to write about my experiences for magazine submission.

    Immediately following that, I hit approximately $1500 on the Lucky Charmer game, and, again, kept playing. This time my experience was different. My play for two days stayed between $1500.00 and $3000.00. It basically wouldn't go beyond $3000.00 but wouldn't go below $1500.00. I bet it happened 15 times or more. And, to be honest, it got boring. It didn't change until I cashed in some of the winnings. Then it reverted back to the same old way it had been.

    I believe a "lock" on my play had been put in place someway/somehow to guarantee I'd cash something. It was as though they didn't want me writing about all losses and no wins. You see, up to this point, I'd cashed nothing. It's since reverted back to its original "no second chance" form.

    I just don't believe it's coincidence. I think they control who wins/who loses in some manner. Would be interested in your thoughts.

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    Attn: Alleyoops24
    Hmmm, an old term "player profiling" comes to mind....I believe that most online casinos have the software to "profile" the player, and learn what you will do......give it a thought!

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    Inetwiz-

    Over how many trials did you do this test? 4? 5? 20?

    Post some facts then let's analyze them.

    Alleyoop -

    Trust me on this one. I run a website, and I write for sites all over the Net.

    I lost my ASS at AllSlots. And I happen to know the people there.

    You were just lucky/unlucky.

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    Inetwiz -

    I was lucky and had an oversize win at Allslots.
    Did you know it is a five deck game? Or does that matter to your play?

    Spearmaster -

    As for profiling, I was scrutinizing an online casino software company's website and tucked away in a description of features for there sportsbook module it said the lines were switchable according to the profile of the player then it listed three player types. The website is interactive-gaming.com they provide sw for Gameday, sunnysportsbook, fairdeal casino, fivecardcharlie, wssbcasino, vip-casino.

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    Interesting, Subic. I suspect those are steam, scalpers and squares

    When it comes to a sportsbook, it's almost understood that different players get different lines. Now I don't happen to agree with that logic, but then I am not an expert on sports betting either. I do, however, know the CEO of IGW and I will ask him a bit more about this next time I see him in June.

    Profiling had better not exist as far as casinos go, however.

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    Spearmaster :

    under admin at IGW site it says "adjustable lines for Street / Wise Guy / Square Customers "

    What does it mean?

    (Subic = Portia)

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    lol

    squares are ordinary people. Not being a sports bettor, though, I don't think I am qualified to explain the other two types, other than to say they are generally the type the books keep an eagle eye on.

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    I too have noticed some all too coincidental patterns with MicroGaming. I've noticed that if you are a player who raises your bet on a loss and
    lowers it on a win, they will sucker you into an escalating pattern then cut you off at the knees!
    I've watched it happen time and time again. The only way to stop it is to pull the plug and limit
    your losses. I've also noticed that their "random"
    generator hits patterns where it will not only hit the same color, but the exact same number four or five times in a row. You can still win against MicroGaming, but you have to be alert to
    their "tells".

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