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    Reponse on request for game logs

    I think once the first week in June comes and my account is credited with the 10% back on net losses that Betcasino provides, I will blow it and wash my hands with these folks. My suspicions about the fairness of their games and their response to my request warrant an e-mail expressing my displeasure along with a request to close the account. Unless there is something else I can do. Comments or suggestions are welcome.

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    casinomeister , do you play black jack on land? do you play black jack online everyday?

    I can say this rtg, micro, intercasino casinos, play way different than boss and playtec casinos

    everytime i play playtec, i get 13 to 15 losing hands, every time. and i am not the only one. I can see once and a while, but every dam time. something wrong. There video was said to a little shacky and any real black jack player dont like playtec black jack.

    Casinomeister and a few other webmasters, ask the casino to let some run a indepent test, until then playtec and boss are black is fixed in my eyes and others.

    If i can win most of the time at the rtg , micro and intercasino and cant win over 100 bucks at playtec , something is wrong. Wake up, we need some one to really test the fairest of the game.

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    Bryan - since the time you complained about my stating opinions as "fact", you'll notice all my subsequent comments on this matter are INVARIABLY prefaced with an "IMO" statement. There is nothing irresponsible or emotional about stating one's opinion.

    It's my opinion that MG, Crypto and RTG do not currently cheat.

    It's my opinion that Playtech and Boss cheat.

    People are free to ignore my opinion for the baseless drivel it is and go on patronizing software that I believe cheats. I stand by my opinion.

    ...we are not obligated to supply an entire game log history for any reason, if you have a query with a particular game (s), hand (s) we will review the said query and supply the you with details of our findings.
    That is quite hilarious. Ain't got nothing to hide, these boys.

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    Suggestion for Banno

    I suggest giving one more try on the logs. It is unacceptable for a casino not to give you your game logs when requested. I have never been denied my logs but then again I have always asked for single sessions or at most two sessions. I don't know anything about their side of the software but it might be a huge pain in the butt to pull the logs on all the different dates and compile them into one document to send to you. Try sending them an email along the lines of this:

    "I understand that my request for all my logs is unusual, however I ask you to please reconsider. There is always debate online as to whether blackjack software is producing a fair result. This debate has made me uneasy about investing my entertainment dollars on a regular basis with any online casino.
    I simply want to review my playing logs to confirm that they are in line with reasonable results. This will give me the confidence to continue playing online. I'm sure you agree that allowing player's access to their logs is an important part of the casino/player relationship.
    regards,"

    If the casino still denies this request then they should be considered for the rogue list. Denying gamelogs to me dissolves any trust that may have existed between player and casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banno
    I think once the first week in June comes and my account is credited with the 10% back on net losses that Betcasino provides, I will blow it and wash my hands with these folks. My suspicions about the fairness of their games and their response to my request warrant an e-mail expressing my displeasure along with a request to close the account. Unless there is something else I can do. Comments or suggestions are welcome.
    Did you loose your mind?
    You have lost so much money with them and you don't even think they are dealing a fair game, why do you still want to play?
    I'd suggest you to stop gambling, at least for awhile. Take the 10% cash back and do something else.
    Quote Originally Posted by angahar
    I suggest giving one more try on the logs. It is unacceptable for a casino not to give you your game logs when requested. I have never been denied my logs but then again I have always asked for single sessions or at most two sessions. I don't know anything about their side of the software but it might be a huge pain in the butt to pull the logs on all the different dates and compile them into one document to send to you. Try sending them an email along the lines of this:

    "I understand that my request for all my logs is unusual, however I ask you to please reconsider. There is always debate online as to whether blackjack software is producing a fair result. This debate has made me uneasy about investing my entertainment dollars on a regular basis with any online casino.
    I simply want to review my playing logs to confirm that they are in line with reasonable results. This will give me the confidence to continue playing online. I'm sure you agree that allowing player's access to their logs is an important part of the casino/player relationship.
    regards,"

    If the casino still denies this request then they should be considered for the rogue list. Denying gamelogs to me dissolves any trust that may have existed between player and casino.
    Now that's a really great suggestion. I always prefer the "soft" approach and more often than not I'll get what I want without hurting anyone's feeling.
    Last edited by hhcfreebie; 24th May 2004 at 08:40 PM.

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    Response to Angahar

    Angahar, thanks for your earlier response. No problems here.

    And I like the sounds of your sample e-mail. I think that's what I'll do.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caruso
    It's my opinion that MG, Crypto and RTG do not currently cheat.

    It's my opinion that Playtech and Boss cheat.
    Caruso,

    Do you mean just on BJ or on all games?

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    Response to HHCFREEBIE

    Quote Originally Posted by hhcfreebie
    Did you loose your mind?
    You have lost so much money with them and you don't even think they are dealing a fair game, why do you still want to play?
    I'd suggest you to stop gambling, at least for awhile. Take the 10% cash back and do something else.
    HHC, I guess I should have clarified the 10% cash back. It's actually a wagering bonus...10% back on net losses from the previous month's losses and wagering requirements apply, so I wouldn't be able to withdraw it. That's why I said I was going to blow it because I know damn well I'm not going to win anything with it. LOL.

    I have been doing just fine on Omni since late last week. Deposited $50 and my balance is currently at $320. Just needed to get off the Playtec.

    Thanks for your response.
    Last edited by banno; 24th May 2004 at 08:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banno
    HHC, I guess I should have clarified the 10% cash back. It's actually a wagering bonus...10% back on net losses from the previous month's losses and wagering requirements apply, so I wouldn't be able to withdraw it. That's why I said I was going to blow it because I know damn well I'm not going to win anything with it. LOL.

    I have been doing just fine on Omni since late last week. Deposited $50 and my balance is currently at $320. Just needed to get off the Playtec.

    Thanks for your response.
    I am sorry I jumped to the conclusion too soon.
    If you have to play, why not play other games?
    Their 4 line Jack or better video poker offer better odds than black jack. Since their "doubling" feature also count as wager requirement, this game is way better than BJ.
    If you normally play $4 per hand in BJ, you can play 10 cents 4 line JoB for a total of 0.1x5x4=2 dollars bet per hand, doubling up to $4 dollars. This will give you about the same "excitment" or risk you are willing to tolerate, only with much better odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bethug
    everytime i play playtec, i get 13 to 15 losing hands, every time.
    This is exactly the sort of thing that would show up in the logs, so why are you saying "Dont need to show no logs."
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