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Old 12th May 2006, 01:20 AM
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Extra charges on debit card - Riverbelle

My computer crashed and I hadn't gambled in a couple of weeks. When I got back online I put in quite a few deposits to Riverbelle. My deposits started debiting from my bank account about a week later. To my surprise, I was being debiting about 1000.00 more dollars than what my deposits on the Riverbelle website showed and I still have charges coming in!!! I have emailed them a couple times and called them. I have faxed my deposits a few days ago from their transaction page and faxed the daily online report from my bank on what was posted. Its been a few days now and still no reply. Someone needs to look into this, because I have read on numerous sites that this is common. This has happened to me before on Riverbelle, but they were the ones who credited me back when they caught it. I need help!!!!
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Hi Nancyo, welcome to the land of Casinomeister. Have you tried PM'ing the Bellerock rep on board here? Here's a link to his profile, once there, just click on send a private message to Bellerock. Hope this gets resolved for you ASAP.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...bellerock.html
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Old 12th May 2006, 02:15 AM
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Not the first one..

I guarantee you that you are not the first person that has gone through this.

But be happy, Riverbelle is managed by a very respected team and you should find a solution to your problem in no time.

However... DO NOT USE YOUR CREDIT CARD FOR ONLINE GAMBLING...my humble opinion.

Use Neteller of Instadebit if they offer it

The good thing about Neteller is that an ip address is registered from where the deposit was performed. In case of a discrepancy Neteller can easily track where the transaction was performed.

Contact the riverbelle, I am more than positive they will help you out and this will clear.. else .. keep us updated
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Thank you both so much for your replies. I feel better now that they will be willing to help me on this. It is still serious tho, as charges are still coming in to my bank accounts. I did send a pm to the Bellerock admin on here yesterday, but have received no reply. I'm sure that after gambling with Bellerock for near 10 years that they would not want to lose me as a customer over this. This is causing me overdrafts and I do need the money credited back quickly.
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Old 12th May 2006, 09:49 PM
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Weird..

They should have replied by now...

You could ask the meister to notify the Riverbelle, he might help you out.

Are you sure the transactions are coming from the Riverbelle?
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Riverbelle is not cooperating!!

After a few emails to Riverbelle, I got back a response saying their team is investigating the documents I sent and it could take up to 72 hours. Today I get an email saying that some of my accts have been affected by some lags in credit card debits and those were taken out and resolved thru my checking acct on May 4th and 5th. They said sorry for the inconvenience and they have put 20.00 in my acct to play tunzamunni slot because of the problem.

I have a couple problems with this. It is very easy to just send an email saying sorry, lags in charges. The amount I think I have been overcharged so far (depending on what is still to come in to my bank) is 1300.00. They gave me no info on what dates the charges stemmed back to. However, since I hadnt gambled for a couple weeks and going back that many transactions, we are talking a month at least from when those deposits into my acct could have been made. I have gambled for years on Riverbelle and other casinos and no transaction has ever taken over a month to post to my checking account. Secondly, no charges posted to my checking acct on the 4th or 5th.

I went to log in to my acct at Riverbelle to see if indeed they put in 20.00 and it told me I was locked out!!!! I am sooooooo confused. Why would they lock me out??? I have been a good customer to them in nearly 10 years. I spend so much there that they randomly send me gifts. I am questioning an additional 1300.00 being debited from my checking acct off my debit cards and after emailing them documents and a few emails over the past week, I get back a lame answer saying sorry, lagged transactions, here's 20.00 and then they lock my acct!!!!!! What way is this to treat a good loyal customer?
I have never disputed a thing over the years, never been a problem, never sent threatening emails, etc. Now I am wondering if they have blackballed me for catching on to something that maybe they just dont want to resolve. I PM'd the Riverbelle rep on here the other day, but no response. I need help!!!!!!!!
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Nancy

Keep us updated..

I am really shocked by your problem... Riverbelle runs a fine operation.

I hope that all the extra charges on your card are covered by them if it is their fault...

Give them a call, and request to speak with a manger.. .He/she should be able to give you clear and honest details.
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After a few emails to Riverbelle, I got back a response saying their team is investigating the documents I sent and it could take up to 72 hours. Today I get an email saying that some of my accts have been affected by some lags in credit card debits and those were taken out and resolved thru my checking acct on May 4th and 5th. They said sorry for the inconvenience and they have put 20.00 in my acct to play tunzamunni slot because of the problem.

I have a couple problems with this. It is very easy to just send an email saying sorry, lags in charges. The amount I think I have been overcharged so far (depending on what is still to come in to my bank) is 1300.00. They gave me no info on what dates the charges stemmed back to. However, since I hadnt gambled for a couple weeks and going back that many transactions, we are talking a month at least from when those deposits into my acct could have been made. I have gambled for years on Riverbelle and other casinos and no transaction has ever taken over a month to post to my checking account. Secondly, no charges posted to my checking acct on the 4th or 5th.

I went to log in to my acct at Riverbelle to see if indeed they put in 20.00 and it told me I was locked out!!!! I am sooooooo confused. Why would they lock me out??? I have been a good customer to them in nearly 10 years. I spend so much there that they randomly send me gifts. I am questioning an additional 1300.00 being debited from my checking acct off my debit cards and after emailing them documents and a few emails over the past week, I get back a lame answer saying sorry, lagged transactions, here's 20.00 and then they lock my acct!!!!!! What way is this to treat a good loyal customer?
I have never disputed a thing over the years, never been a problem, never sent threatening emails, etc. Now I am wondering if they have blackballed me for catching on to something that maybe they just dont want to resolve. I PM'd the Riverbelle rep on here the other day, but no response. I need help!!!!!!!!

I know it'd be a pain in the ass, but hear me out :

I had a similar incident happen a couple of years ago. I called the bank, disputed the charges, and asked for that card to be cancelled (debit card), and have a new one assigned to my account (new card # and everything). They had no problem with this, and they IMMEDIATELY took those charges off of my account. These funds were in "stasis" for a period of (I believe 45 days). They try to contact the company in question to find out if the charges were legit or not during this time.

If the company doesn't respond in this time, or fails to prove the charges were legitimate, then those charges stay off your account permanantly.

Keep us up to date

ps: Make sure they take any and all NSF fees off your account and check with Chexsystems to make sure it wasn't reported to them either. Once you get in their system it's almost impossible to get a new account anywhere and/or write checks in certain places.

pps: More fire for HR4777 *sigh*
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Was this problem also with Riverbelle? I have no idea why they would want to mess with me after I have deposited 10,000 this year already. They sent me another email saying sorry, heres 5.00 in your acct, but they have locked me out. Im only disputing something Ive questioned and they cant give me a reasonable answer and the bellerock rep on here has never replied. This is unbelieveable to me!
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Angry Re: RiverBelle Problems...

nancyo...

I had a very similar problem with the RiverBelle Casino awhile back... I had questioned a $50 charge on my credit card, and went through all kinds of hassles and aggravation over this.

RiverBelle had me deal with Proc Cyber (their processor) and I wound up having my account locked too.

Just like you... I was a longtime Riverbelle player when this occured, and when I questioned the RiverBelle about my account being locked... I was told in an unfriendly manner that the RiverBelle Casino abides by all decisions made by Proc Cyber, and unless Proc Cyber informed them that my account was clear to reopen, I would continue to be "locked out" of not only the RiverBelle Casino, but all other Proc Cyber processor casinos.

Obviously, after being treated in that manner by the RiverBelle Casino... when I did get the situation finally resolved with Proc Cyber... I never even considered playing at the RiverBelle Casino again.

And just as an added note... Proc Cyber is the processor that has recently issued the checks that were NOT CASHABLE to numerous players.

There is a thread in the forum about that.

Also... Proc Cyber had many, many complaints about them 4-5 years ago.
Although it seemed that they had gotten things in order over the past 3-4 years... it now seems that they are starting to have a spate of "problems" once again.
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