i found people who have also suffered my fate by a kahnawake organisation.

**Achenar** · 25th April 2006, 06:20 PM

i heard alot of bad stuff about this kkave.com.I was reading some posts at casino-crush ands there are many people that got took bye these guys and not depositing wins after WR are met.They just recieve there deposit back.Go check it out if you intrested in more about these guys.Ill spend my 2 cents today on this message..lol

**dreamtheatre** · 25th April 2006, 07:23 PM

Achenar can you tell me the name of the website where you met the complaints about kaave.com

i think there are probably at least 100 hundred players whose memberships have been terminated and whose funds havent been returned by this kaave.com .i want to bring them together in some kind of forum so that we can act together and take some efficient action unless casinomeister manages to get some result.

by the way it would be real nice to hear from casinomeister.

**Achenar** · 25th April 2006, 08:25 PM

sorry m8 this was a couple days ago.But when i find it again i will post.I beleive it was at www.casino-crush.com.then look at bottom for the casino forum.Then click it your in casino-crush gambling forum.Not positve but you can search there.Its kinda big so take your time..lol

**Achenar** · 25th April 2006, 08:29 PM

LMAO.. i found it but one problem YOU post it...lolThis was at hodgepodge..lol

I knew i seen it but wasnt sure .Then i went and looked there and seen you name..lol sorry i couldnt help you any more on this...I tried..

**Achenar** · 25th April 2006, 09:05 PM

Remember where you posted in hodge podge well someone else also post about kavve.comor what ever that @$%^ed up name is. anyway here is what he posted:

hi my name is Mumtaz Sevgi. I am from Turkey and I am a real estate realtor.today i met someone at oyunsalonu.com while playing poker.she was telling how she was robbed 800$ by kaave.com.i was propmptly interested.because i had been robbed $1750 by the same site i was a member of the site and my member name was hayal_et.one morning i started playing then i closed the screen and a few hours later when i tried to log in iwas told that mu membership was cancelled because i had cheated during a play.at the moment i had about $1750 in my account.i wrote at least 20 mails because i had absolutely not cheaten but to no avail.my newly acquired friend gave me this address along with others could you help me get my money back

**dreamtheatre** · 26th April 2006, 11:31 AM

well i do not want to irritate Casinomeister but i feel obliged to share what i found.these are taken from www.sikayetvar.com.
""Kaave.com Parama El Koydu ve �yeliğimi İptal Etti kahvegibi06 [17 Şubat 2006, 17:09]
Kaave.com�un �yesi idim. Kısa bir s�re �nce 1000 Dolar para �ekme talimatı verdim. Kredi kartıma baktığımda paranın kartıma yatırılmadığını bilakis birde kredi kartımdan ortalama 4000 Dolar para �ekildiğini g�rd�m.

Bankamla irtibata ge�tim. Şubat ayı i�erisinde �ekilen hi�bir paranın tarafımca yapılmadığını beyan ederek kartımı kapattırdım. Yetkili mercilere şikayette bulundum. Şimdi �yeliğimi iptal etmişler. ""

precisely this means: ""i was a member of kaave.com, my member name was kahvegibi. i had asked for a withdrawal of 1000 dollars. when i checked my credit card i noticed that not only the thousand dollars hadn't been deposited but about 4000 dollars had benn withdrawn from my credit card.i got in touch with my bank and had my card cancelled. i made official complaints about the embezzlement ant then i noticed that my membership with kaave.com had benn terminated.17th february 2006.""

i sent this a guy a mail and asked for permission to publish this.you can see this complaint at www.sikayetvar.com. the number of the complaint is 84715.

the other complaints about kaave com are numbers 85183,85070,84715,84700,83378,66324 and 65142

thanks!

**jetset** · 26th April 2006, 12:02 PM

Whoa! If these people are pulling unauthorised withdrawals off player credit cards we have a very serious problem that needs to be publicised to protect others.

I'm afraid I can't understand the site presentation - can you indicate what software provider is powering this outfit? They need to be advised as well.

Kahnawake definitely need to jump on this and very, very quickly.

**dreamtheatre** · 26th April 2006, 12:43 PM

well i had a through search of the site but i am afraid there is no information about the name of the software provider.

**dreamtheatre** · 26th April 2006, 12:57 PM

i could not see the name of this site in the list of permit holders displayed by kahnawake in kahnawake homepage.maybe they are listed under a different name.