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Old 19th March 2006, 08:55 PM
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WOW cipher, I cannot imagine the odds of hitting three Royals in a week! The details are a bit sketchy, but can I gleen these Royals were all at the same casino? If so, those odds are astronomical!

So, the $26k the player has received -- any chance that is the amount of the deposits that netted the three Royals?

I can imagine some casino folks working furiously around the clock trying to find some glitch that allowed such a thing to happen.

Keep us posted -- this is a rare find.
Hi SUZECAT:

All three of these Royals were at the same casino.

Have a good one.
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Hi Bryan:

I just sent you an email with some more details on this one. Additionally, I've sent the casino REP. a copy of this post so I'm going to keep the name of the casino under wraps for a bit longer or at least give the REP another opportunity to respond to the facts of the post.

Have a good one.
Got your email, and I'll double check the status on the casino rep. I had a number of high echelon contacts at this casino group, but they have left over the past few months.

Looks like an interesting week, and I'm looking toward your update.
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Juicy story when it eventually breaks (if it breaks - there could be an NDA)

I can understand Cipher's circumspect approach as this matter is clearly at a sensitive stage at present, but it does sound suspicious that the casino hasn't listed the (record) win or made publicity capital out of it. Is the casino at least communicating?

I hope you'll keep us informed as far as you can Cipher!
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Juicy story when it eventually breaks (if it breaks - there could be an NDA)

I can understand Cipher's circumspect approach as this matter is clearly at a sensitive stage at present, but it does sound suspicious that the casino hasn't listed the (record) win or made publicity capital out of it. Is the casino at least communicating?

I hope you'll keep us informed as far as you can Cipher!
Hi Jet:

The casino has been pathetically quiet Jet, as well as their parent company.

Have a good one.
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Whoa! Not exactly professional, businesslike or encouraging in terms of honesty on the casino's part or it's parent if they have just clammed up and are taking the player around the houses with *investigations*, slow pay and ID re-runs.

This is going to be interesting. In your opinion do you think they have the ability to pay, Cipher? Has your player recorded the detail on his/her win?

Please don't answer if you think any of these questions might prejudice your case.
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Whoa! Not exactly professional, businesslike or encouraging in terms of honesty on the casino's part or it's parent if they have just clammed up and are taking the player around the houses with *investigations*, slow pay and ID re-runs.

This is going to be interesting. In your opinion do you think they have the ability to pay, Cipher? Has your player recorded the detail on his/her win?

Please don't answer if you think any of these questions might prejudice your case.
Every aspect incident to this case has been memorialized to the nth degree, of that you can be sure Jet.

Quote: "In your opinion do you think they have the ability to pay" Let's put it this way Jet, if they don't pay, there will be a huge hit on the gaming business as we currently know it and you can take that to the bank.

Have a good one.
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Whoa! Not exactly professional, businesslike or encouraging in terms of honesty on the casino's part or it's parent if they have just clammed up and are taking the player around the houses with *investigations*, slow pay and ID re-runs.

This is going to be interesting. In your opinion do you think they have the ability to pay, Cipher? Has your player recorded the detail on his/her win?

Please don't answer if you think any of these questions might prejudice your case.
There are very few casinos where you could win this much dough.

Crypto, $250 max on Jacks or Better 10 line - $200k royal - not enough to win $720k in 3 royals.

Grand Virtual doens't let you bet enough to make a $250k win either.

Casino On Net has $250 max bet on 50-line JoB, so again a $200k max win

Playtech $100 Jacks or Better 4 line - $80k max

Boss $25 single line, $20k max

Microgaming $125 Jacks or Better 50 line, or $62.50 Deuces & Joker 50 line ($125k max)

Odds On has a $200k max win, via $100 bets on Deuces and Joker Wild

The only brand that this would normally be achievable on is starluck/planetluck - they have a number of games that would allow the kind of wins that wouldn't exactly put Partygaming out of business, but might warrant a mention on the balance sheet:

Kanga Cash and Vegas Club, two video poker games with a 1000 coin royal flush and a $500 max bet ($500k max win). A $250 bet here would win $250k.

Their normal video poker games (jacks or better) have been removed from their website at the moment, for upgrades or maintenace or something, but the max bet on these games was always only $5.

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The details are going to be interesting here - did the casino raise its limits. What coin was the player playing? With $240k royals, that's $60 coins on a normal 4000 coin jackpot. $60 coins would be a little strange. So a 1000 coin jackpot and $50 coins is much more likely. Some kind of progressive? (they should have the cash to pay) Or some other jackpot, or even higher royals accompanied with a lot of play in between - e.g., $100 coins, for a $400k win * 3 = $1.2million, minus the money lost playing for the royals (or maybe a two huge royals and a merely big one).

Or is it some where I haven't played (e.g., gambling federation), that is crappy and irresponsible and has limits it can't afford to pay.

Maybe the player is a super whale and actually did play video poker at $500/time.
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Every aspect incident to this case has been memorialized to the nth degree, of that you can be sure Jet.

Quote: "In your opinion do you think they have the ability to pay" Let's put it this way Jet, if they don't pay, there will be a huge hit on the gaming business as we currently know it and you can take that to the bank.

Have a good one.

This to me means its one of the big boys. I hope it is cause the odds are he will get paid. Can we start a poll to guess what casino it is?

The suspense is killing me.
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There are very few casinos where you could win this much dough.

Crypto, $250 max on Jacks or Better 10 line - $200k royal - not enough to win $720k in 3 royals.

Grand Virtual doens't let you bet enough to make a $250k win either.

Casino On Net has $250 max bet on 50-line JoB, so again a $200k max win

Playtech $100 Jacks or Better 4 line - $80k max

Boss $25 single line, $20k max

Microgaming $125 Jacks or Better 50 line, or $62.50 Deuces & Joker 50 line ($125k max)

Odds On has a $200k max win, via $100 bets on Deuces and Joker Wild

The only brand that this would normally be achievable on is starluck/planetluck - they have a number of games that would allow the kind of wins that wouldn't exactly put Partygaming out of business, but might warrant a mention on the balance sheet:

Kanga Cash and Vegas Club, two video poker games with a 1000 coin royal flush and a $500 max bet ($500k max win). A $250 bet here would win $250k.

Their normal video poker games (jacks or better) have been removed from their website at the moment, for upgrades or maintenace or something, but the max bet on these games was always only $5.

---

The details are going to be interesting here - did the casino raise its limits. What coin was the player playing? With $240k royals, that's $60 coins on a normal 4000 coin jackpot. $60 coins would be a little strange. So a 1000 coin jackpot and $50 coins is much more likely. Some kind of progressive? (they should have the cash to pay) Or some other jackpot, or even higher royals accompanied with a lot of play in between - e.g., $100 coins, for a $400k win * 3 = $1.2million, minus the money lost playing for the royals (or maybe a two huge royals and a merely big one).

Or is it some where I haven't played (e.g., gambling federation), that is crappy and irresponsible and has limits it can't afford to pay.

Maybe the player is a super whale and actually did play video poker at $500/time.

High rollers can usually ask to have their limits raised....
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There are very few casinos where you could win this much dough.

Crypto, $250 max on Jacks or Better 10 line - $200k royal - not enough to win $720k in 3 royals.

Grand Virtual doens't let you bet enough to make a $250k win either.

Casino On Net has $250 max bet on 50-line JoB, so again a $200k max win

Playtech $100 Jacks or Better 4 line - $80k max

Boss $25 single line, $20k max

Microgaming $125 Jacks or Better 50 line, or $62.50 Deuces & Joker 50 line ($125k max)

Odds On has a $200k max win, via $100 bets on Deuces and Joker Wild



Great list "thelawnet"!

Just a thought (and I'm not sure why anyone would dare do this), but is it possible that the player doubled-up on one of those monster hits? I realize that at those stakes, a casino probably wouldn't allow any kind of double-up on $200K , but maybe... That's the only thing I can think of. Perhaps that this $720K total is counted over the duration of one week, and the player won $200K 3 times, mixed-in with a few straight flushes (and a bunch of double-ups)?


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High rollers can usually ask to have their limits raised....


Of course, this would make the most sense.


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