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    Software random or "rigged" ?

    Yesterday I claimed a buy $50 and geta $50 bonus a a certain MG casino.I started playing the Halloweenies slot with bets of .20 to $1.I must have spun 500 times and not gotten three rabbits once. I emailed CS and asked about this and was told "We're sorry you didnt get the rabbits but the software is random and we have no control over what comes up and what doesnt.Why dont you play some other games? We just had two winners in the last 30 min. on Pollenation and Witches Wealth.For $3000 and $8000 "I was told.Funny I've played this game at other casinos and never had such bad "random" results.I wonder if the software kicks in and starts "randomly"cleaning everybody out for a while after paying a couple of big wins?After depositing a few more times close to $300 I got the rabbits twice. Probably in the neighborhood of 8-900 spins now.Once for 4 rabbits once for 3.anyone familiar with the game knows that 4 rabbits pays 1000 credits plus whatever you win on the free spins.total payout was 1655 credits.For 3 rabbits it was 800 something.Today the bonus was credited and while playing I did hit hit rabbits 6 or 7 times but only when betting .20 to $1.Bet 5 or 10 and nothing.sure is questionable how the "randomness" was so different from yesterday to today.Needless to say the bonus didnt last and I wont be using this casino again.

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    Just bad luck, that's all. Two bad sessions don't = rigged
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    Quote Originally Posted by winbig72
    Just bad luck, that's all. Two bad sessions don't = rigged
    Doesnt explain why the randomsoftware was so different one day to the next.
    However "rigged" does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombomb
    Doesnt explain why the randomsoftware was so different one day to the next.
    However "rigged" does.
    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    So far as I am aware, it's not possible (at least in any way likely) that/for a casino itself to alter the software the provider has written. Payouts maybe be alterable, but the RNG is not. All MGV casinos use the same RNG.

    If the slot you are mentioning is "rigged", it would mean that Microgaming has rigged it's RNG.

    It's going to take tens of millions of dollars worth in sample size for you to even start to make such a claim about a software that nearly everyone considers to be "fair". However, as I suspect, that if you did have a sample this size, you would find that the software is fair, and that you were mistaken.

    Alternatively, you could just listen to what I, and I'd assume nearly everyone else, can tell you about Microgaming software, and that is that it is fair.

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    nah 'l l just keep my tens of millions of dollars

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    It's OK

    That's just normal paranoia, tombtomb. It's perfectly all right to feel this way We all get it now and then

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombomb
    Doesnt explain why the randomsoftware was so different one day to the next.
    However "rigged" does.

    As it was said above, you can't judge the RNG by such a small sample as the one you played. It's going to be the same at any casino you play at either online or off. One slot may be hitting nothing one day and be red hot the next. Put the shoe on the other foot...if you would have played the 2nd day and won $10,000 on the same slot, your post would have been entirely different, wouldn't it?
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    Halloweenies is a very streaky slot. I've sat there and got so many bonus rounds in a short time that I thought it was ridiculous.. and even had it re-trigger 5 times during one bonus round. On the other hand, that game wiped out my bankroll more than once without either bonus round showing up for hundreds and hundreds of spins. My mistake for expecting it to play the same way every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gunslinger
    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    So far as I am aware, it's not possible (at least in any way likely) that/for a casino itself to alter the software the provider has written. Payouts maybe be alterable, but the RNG is not. All MGV casinos use the same RNG.
    I am not so sure about that ...not saying that MG software is rigged, but being merely a programmer I could imagine that some really smart people could alter the code, that theirs casino software will use thier own RNG insteed of thos one from MG.
    ...and if casnio say: the first one who give us working rigged software will earn 1 000 000$, is likley some one will hack MG

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    Quote Originally Posted by juliette
    I am not so sure about that ...not saying that MG software is rigged, but being merely a programmer I could imagine that some really smart people could alter the code, that theirs casino software will use thier own RNG insteed of thos one from MG.
    ...and if casnio say: the first one who give us working rigged software will earn 1 000 000$, is likley some one will hack MG

    I highly doubt you'd see that happen in a Microgaming casino. Too much at stake if they were caught. The house has a guaranteed edge to begin with, so they don't need to do anything to make oodles of cash. I'm sure that the servers in each MG casino are not totally independent of the master servers at Microgaming which would pick up on a rogue that has hacked the RNG.

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