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    Quote Originally Posted by shdw06 View Post
    i do still have one question, though, and that is assuming that $50 bet/ 5 hours are the only requirements, regardless of game, what game would i play the least amount of hands? as far as i know, pai gow is the slowest game on the planet.
    Well, pai gow poker can be a slow game, but so can any of a number of games where decisions have to be made. The problem with pai gow poker is that its comp rate isn't going to be significantly higher than blackjack because of a high number of pushes, yet the house edge is higher.

    For this type of calculation, I'd probably go read the Wizard of Odds and find out on average how many pushes occur for every settled hand.

    The slowest game you find will inevitably be one with a full table. As I don't know a lot of the newer table games, I can't say for sure which one would be slowest, all other things equal - but you'll be able to figure that out simply by watching for a bit

    If you ask the casino host the bet/hours question, he/she should be perfectly happy to give you the answer - if anything, the last thing they want you to play is blackjack with a full table.

    and i lied, i have one more question, which is what happens when i "link" someone elses players card to mine? my ex-girlfriend had her card linked to my account, so that we would accumilate comps into one account, and not 2. if i linked a buddy's card to my account, would my $30 average bet plus his $20 still add up to $50? or would i need to then have a $100 average bet, since there is twice as many players on the account? thanks again for the info!
    You'll need to ask the casino that - but I would imagine you could both play $50/hand for 2.5 hours each if the comp account is linked.

    Here is a good article on how comps are calculated - and makes a very strong case for blackjack which is what I think Robwin was intending to point out.

    Here's a key excerpt:
    Since pit bosses can’t watch the play of every individual blackjack player to determine their skill level they general will estimate that their advantage over the masses of blackjack players to be 2%. This means they expect to win about $36 in the above example ($1800 x 2%).

    Most casinos will give players comps worth 30 to 50% of a player’s expected loss. This means the above player can expect a comp worth about $14 ($36 x 40%).

    Now here is how a blackjack player can get more in comps then his theoretical loss.

    By learning the basic blackjack playing strategy, you can reduce the casino's edge to 0.5%. This means in the above example a basic strategy player’s expected loss is only $9 ($1800 x 0.5%). Your expected loss is only 25% of what the casino thinks they are going to win from you. So instead of a theoretical loss of $36, your expected loss is only $9 and the casino gives you $14 worth of comps. You’ve received more in comps than the amount of money you expected to lose. Not a bad deal.
    http://www.readybetgo.com/blackjack/...omps-1179.html

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    Cool Nice Offer !!

    Regarding Comps and Ratings, I just received this offer from the Monte Carlo Resort & Casino in Las Vegas and the thing that really makes this offer special is the fact that I have not even played there before. Not at a Monte Carlo Casino anywhere. Sure, I receive offers bigger and better from my home casino Harrah's but still this is a good one for not being one of their regulars. I called and my newly acquired host said that the room is in fact a very nice 2-bedroom spa suite with all the amenities included.

    She said they probably obtained my player ratings from one of the other casinos that they are affiliated with, thus the reason for the unexpected offer. She even told me that she would look at my play before leaving to see if she could totally comp my airfare for two. She said based on my previous play at the Mirage that she did not see any problem at all issuing me a total comp for the airfare. May just have to take them up on this one for a nice weekend getaway...

    It's turning out to be my lucky day, maybe I should try an online casino..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobWin View Post
    Regarding Comps and Ratings, I just received this offer from the Monte Carlo Resort & Casino in Las Vegas and the thing that really makes this offer special is the fact that I have not even played there before. Not at a Monte Carlo Casino anywhere. Sure, I receive offers bigger and better from my home casino Harrah's but still this is a good one for not being one of their regulars. I called and my newly acquired host said that the room is in fact a very nice 2-bedroom spa suite with all the amenities included.

    She said they probably obtained my player ratings from one of the other casinos that they are affiliated with, thus the reason for the unexpected offer. She even told me that she would look at my play before leaving to see if she could totally comp my airfare for two. She said based on my previous play at the Mirage that she did not see any problem at all issuing me a total comp for the airfare. May just have to take them up on this one for a nice weekend getaway...

    It's turning out to be my lucky day, maybe I should try an online casino..
    You know what I think is funny? Undoubtedly they either accessed the Mirage database (same ownership) or else some host moved from Harrah's or somewhere else you played and took customer data with them.

    In the online gambling world, this is considered unethical... maybe because we sort of get spammed.

    But in the real world, this is appreciated. Don't get me wrong - I find this perfectly logical, and not really unethical given that it should be the Mirage database - and I often get offers like this too, and appreciate them when I can take advantage of them.

    Just wanted to point out the irony

    If I were you - that looks like a great offer. I've stayed in the Monte Carlo and it's of a similarly high standard, though personally of the Mirage group, I prefer TI. The good thing about Monte Carlo is that it's next to New York New York, which I also like, and across from the MGM Grand if that's your thing.

    And assuming you will get your airfare comped... now all that's left besides shows and meals is to get the limo to and from the airport!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spearmaster View Post
    You know what I think is funny? Undoubtedly they either accessed the Mirage database (same ownership) or else some host moved from Harrah's or somewhere else you played and took customer data with them.

    In the online gambling world, this is considered unethical... maybe because we sort of get spammed.

    But in the real world, this is appreciated. Don't get me wrong - I find this perfectly logical, and not really unethical given that it should be the Mirage database - and I often get offers like this too, and appreciate them when I can take advantage of them.

    Just wanted to point out the irony
    I would guess Spear, that you are absolutely correct there about how they accessed my info but I'm actually glad they did..

    If I were you - that looks like a great offer. I've stayed in the Monte Carlo and it's of a similarly high standard, though personally of the Mirage group, I prefer TI. The good thing about Monte Carlo is that it's next to New York New York, which I also like, and across from the MGM Grand if that's your thing.
    I checked it out online and it looks like a really nice place. Never even been in one of them but it appears that the one in Vegas has a lot to offer. It's location there did look convenient to everything.

    And assuming you will get your airfare comped... now all that's left besides shows and meals is to get the limo to and from the airport!
    Actually if you look right above the "More Details" button on the offer pic I posted above it does include RF & B and Limo service, so all in all it's a great offer for me right now..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobWin View Post
    Actually if you look right above the "More Details" button on the offer pic I posted above it does include RF & B and Limo service, so all in all it a great offer for me right now..
    LOL...

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