Shufflemaster machines being used to cheat? Patent 6651982, Computerized shuffels

[stockman27]

I don't play online anymore for any kind of money. Now just smaller stakes for experimentation.

I personally have enough proof of my own to satisfy myself, however concrete proof in the form anomalies of stats etc. is a large project to undertake & personally I don't have the patience or the time to put any thing like that together especially since its been done by others & put down by online poker interest that patrols 2+2 forums. There's a guy over there that post by optimus that has put a tremendous amount of time in proving internet poker is rigged, For anyone thats willing to go through all his post will find that he is very objective & puts the stats forward clearly & shows that all in equity is much higher on hands that are behind than they should be. How is he going to prove that the sites program some accounts to run better than others, Theyll just blame that on variance. You'll get the same amount of AA, flushes, straights, boats etc. but the timing of when you get them is where they get you. You may win 5 times in a row with AA & only win the blinds & get no action, then you run them into a set & lose more than you won the first 5 times. You may catch KK against AA but never the other way around. 3rd party verifyers they claim to use only look at stats as a whole so that they can approve randomness.

[Alexishot69]

Yeah i tend to agree somewhat with what you say ,the other main excuse being you see so many hands compared with live poker..that one dosent wash with me cos u can play live poker for hyours and hours and never see 4 of a kind , str8 flushes etc etc as always appear online especially at prima..however once again it boils down to hard concrete proof and statistics wont do that u need the real evidence and noones ever gonna have that sadly...