Greetings from Webbet LTD

[WEBBET LTD]

Hi Laurie,

I'm very sorry to say that we do not accept U.S players.


Frank

[Jasminebed]

Welcome to the forum Frank.

[WEBBET LTD]

Thanks Jasminebed,
really enjoying being here so far with all you kind members!

[vinylweatherman]

There are multiple contradictions in the terms, mainly about deposits and withdrawals.

For example, credit cards.

Withdrawal by credit card is shown as an option, but a statement follows to say that withdrawals CANNOT be processed back to credit cards.

Players are told that they can withdraw by ANY available method, however, ANOTHER section about credit cards (remember, they are NOT a withdrawal option, are they) states that if players deposit with a credit card, WITHDRAWAL by credit card is MANDATORY (bit odd really for a method that is unavailable).

It is hard to read the terms and conditions as a whole as you have to keep clicking forward and back to sample each section and subsection, VERY easy to miss something, and clearly something that has created the situation where your OWN team have no overall idea of what they have been putting together on the site.

This will lead to trouble when players who have read one thing in one click-through section are told something completely different when they come to make a transaction, usually when they withdraw. You will face accusations of "bait & switch" as they are referred to contradictory sections of the terms and conditions.

Promotions section - there aren't any apart from the SUB, a bit boring really for an MG casino.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by WEBBET LTD

Hi Laurie,

I'm very sorry to say that we do not accept U.S players.


Frank

Why not? A good 90+% of other MG's gladly accepts USA players that aren't in the banned states list.

Again, when are operators going to learn that aside from the banned states, it's NOT ILLEGAL to gamble online?

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by winbig

Why not? A good 90+% of other MG's gladly accepts USA players that aren't in the banned states list.

Again, when are operators going to learn that aside from the banned states, it's NOT ILLEGAL to gamble online?

It's down to Malta. They have a condition that their licensees do not offer real gambling to places where it is deemed "illegal". Their interpretation of UIGEA is that it renders GAMBLING illegal, as well as transacting.

It is logical though, as if taking deposits and paying winnings is illegal, then no real gambling can FAIRLY be offered with no prospect of LEGALLY paying winners, or collecting monies from losers.

The other EU jurisdictions also prevent the offering of real money gambling to USA players, although the EU are on the US government's case about the fact that it is not "gambling" itself they seek to ban, but only "gambling offered by non-US companies". This is protectionism, and maybe the EU is now big enough to make the US polititians listen. They certainly listened to Japan and China, who probably OWN much of the US debt mountain anyway.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

The other EU jurisdictions also prevent the offering of real money gambling to USA players, although the EU are on the US government's case about the fact that it is not "gambling" itself they seek to ban, but only "gambling offered by non-US companies". This is protectionism, and maybe the EU is now big enough to make the US polititians listen. They certainly listened to Japan and China, who probably OWN much of the US debt mountain anyway.

But we all know it's gonna take a bazillion years before the WTO acts on anything.

[WEBBET LTD]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

There are multiple contradictions in the terms, mainly about deposits and withdrawals.

For example, credit cards.

Withdrawal by credit card is shown as an option, but a statement follows to say that withdrawals CANNOT be processed back to credit cards.

Players are told that they can withdraw by ANY available method, however, ANOTHER section about credit cards (remember, they are NOT a withdrawal option, are they) states that if players deposit with a credit card, WITHDRAWAL by credit card is MANDATORY (bit odd really for a method that is unavailable).

It is hard to read the terms and conditions as a whole as you have to keep clicking forward and back to sample each section and subsection, VERY easy to miss something, and clearly something that has created the situation where your OWN team have no overall idea of what they have been putting together on the site.

This will lead to trouble when players who have read one thing in one click-through section are told something completely different when they come to make a transaction, usually when they withdraw. You will face accusations of "bait & switch" as they are referred to contradictory sections of the terms and conditions.

Promotions section - there aren't any apart from the SUB, a bit boring really for an MG casino.

Good Morning Vinylweatherman,

Thanks for your comments and for taking the time to go through our T&C's, much appreciated.

I will pass your comments on today and see if appropriate adjustments can be made in light of your observations.

Thanks again to all for taking the time

Frank

[chuchu59]

Not too impressed. Having registered I thought that there would at least be a welcome message from the casino. Still none after 2 days.