Dane do not do chargebacks

[mary]

Talked to some operators, casino and sportsbook, at the Casino Affiliate Conference. They don't have chargeback problems with Danish players.

It's a RealTime Gaming fabrication.

The sportsbook operators find Danes to be good customers. The casino operators do find the Danes to not be as profitable as players as, well, Americans.

I would imagine that the poker room operators probably also find Danes to be good customers.

[mary]

VegasUSA is now using Microgaming. Remind me, why did they ban Danish players?

[tortex]

Well - it was something with chargebacks and stolen creditcards as I recall it. Out of 89 OPA members complaining - 86 of them were in the VegasUSA negative database for chargebacks etc. Btw. don't ask if the three players who weren't in the negative database got paid (you'll be disappointed).

I'm sure VegasUSA had a lot of danes playing their 30 for 1 offer last year - I'm sure only a few would have turned out to be regular players - and I'm sure VegasUSA got tired of danish players. But in fact VegasUSA were lucky to ban the danes BEFORE everyone started gambling. They put a stop to new danish signups on March 3 2001 - the day before the infamous danish TV-show.

So - VegasUSA want us to believe:

1. Danes would go to the bank and chargeback $1
2. Danes would steal a creditcard and use it to deposit $1 at VegasUSA

Yeah right! :rofl:

Furthermore they didn't kick out EXISTING danish players - they just made it impossible to register new danish accounts and to register a new creditcard on existing accounts. My card expired 02/2001 - so VegasUSA didn't get a chance to get ahead again.

If we were so bad - why didn't they lock our accounts? I won several prizes (from a website) for VegasUSA2, cashed out a couple of hundred dollars and got paid promptly - and that was AFTER I wasn't allowed to register a new creditcard. I've won around $340 from the old VegasUSA group and I've deposited a total of $24 - and VegasUSA claim I'm in their negative database for chargebacks.

Yeah right!!! :rofl:

I hope Microgaming will realize there's something rotten in VegasUSA (and not in the state of Denmark).

It would probably be to much to hope for a Players Trust #3 :lol:

[mary]

Does VegasUSA still owe Danish players money?

And why would VegasUSA of all Microgaming sites be the only one targeted by Danes with stolen credit cards?

I know the OPA mediation staff were working on this months ago, I just don't remember how it turned out. So many casinos, so few brain cells!

[joeyl]

You mean DHCM was essentially correct?

What a surprise..

http://www.winneronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003892.html

[jyde]

@Mary
It was discussed here:
http://www.onlineplayersassociation.co.uk/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?lm=10332 10672&file=/158/340.html

Noone received winnings - some never received deposits. OPA members are owed around 12K.

[mary]

Ah, I see, under the Elka thread. OK.
Yeah, it does look like they ought to be "Not Recommended". We'll put a call out for input in the newsletter.

[jetset]

It is not just sportsbook and casino operators who confirm that Danes are NOT a problem regarding chargebacks - the big banks and e-processing companies were also approached and confirmed (as Dr HO Casino Manager did) that Danes do not have a bad chargeback record.

(Message edited by jetset on September 30, 2002)

[spearmaster]

Yes, I also personally conferred with various e-processing companies and confirmed that Danes are unlikely to be initiating fraud.

[mike]

I recall (I could be wrong with my old age) that a couple of casinos stated that the IGC had told them about the "Danes" and issued some sort of alert? can anyone jog my memory on this? Or is my memory playing tricks on me?