Potential conflict-of-interest concerns - Apathy - Thoughts on Improving CM Forum

[silkprint]

Chayton?
You eat puppies ??
LMAO
Sorry...I couldn't help myself

[gloria460]

Thanks for that JHV.


I can see this thread "could" get heated, but if we can stay focused on whatever it is you (and I or anyone) wants to accomplish, maybe we can actually get some feedback from people here. I'd love to hear from other posters/players as to why they don't take more of an interest in certain topics. And I'd also truly like to hear from some affiliates in re: the choices they make in who to promote, how they deal with player issues, if they keep up to date on player issues...that type of thing.

That really hit home with me. As stated previously in another thread I read almost every post on this forum but some die so quickly that I don't get a chance to read them until someone bumps them up. I myself had read threads where people were called out or made to feel inferior because of what they believe in...sometimes foul language is used I'm assuming just to make a point.

I'm very interested in the online gaming industry but like a lot of members here I don't say much as I don't want someone jumping down my throat or using foul language directed at me bc of what I perceive to be true. I'm also reading other forums to learn about all the shenanigans that go on in the online industry.

This site has a large membership but it's mainly the same people that post over and over without many joining in...I believe if we were to be just a bit more cordial when replying to someone you would get a lot more participation. I'm sure that a huge amount read these posts and it puts them off from posting because of replies from some that are not necessary. I believe if you educate in a most positive way you will get to the masses and have more input from your members...no need to make a new person feel small just to look big...this is my perception of a lot of these post and I find a lot of them quite rude for no reason.

I also find members that jump on the band-wagon when someone is calling out a newbie or tearing them up. Only a few will actually take up for that person being put down. It's situations like these that keep participation low.

Just my buck-fifty

[silcnlayc]

That really hit home with me. As stated previously in another thread I read almost every post on this forum but some die so quickly that I don't get a chance to read them until someone bumps them up. I myself had read threads where people were called out or made to feel inferior because of what they believe in...sometimes foul language is used I'm assuming just to make a point.

I'm very interested in the online gaming industry but like a lot of members here I don't say much as I don't want someone jumping down my throat or using foul language directed at me bc of what I perceive to be true. I'm also reading other forums to learn about all the shenanigans that go on in the online industry.

This site has a large membership but it's mainly the same people that post over and over without many joining in...I believe if we were to be just a bit more cordial when replying to someone you would get a lot more participation. I'm sure that a huge amount read these posts and it puts them off from posting because of replies from some that are not necessary. I believe if you educate in a most positive way you will get to the masses and have more input from your members...no need to make a new person feel small just to look big...this is my perception of a lot of these post and I find a lot of them quite rude for no reason.

I also find members that jump on the band-wagon when someone is calling out a newbie or tearing them up. Only a few will actually take up for that person being put down. It's situations like these that keep participation low.

Just my buck-fifty

Very nicely put gloria460. Ditto on all you said.

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[catrina m]

Inet knows you love em!!!!

Nice Post.

[chayton]

Chayton?
You eat puppies ??
LMAO
Sorry...I couldn't help myself

oh no, not ME - it was VINCE who ate the puppy.
(that's my story and I'm sticking to it)

Inet knows you love em!!!!

iNet should know, I show my love to them whenever I can afford it.

[chayton]

That really hit home with me. As stated previously in another thread I read almost every post on this forum but some die so quickly that I don't get a chance to read them until someone bumps them up. I myself had read threads where people were called out or made to feel inferior because of what they believe in...sometimes foul language is used I'm assuming just to make a point.

I'm very interested in the online gaming industry but like a lot of members here I don't say much as I don't want someone jumping down my throat or using foul language directed at me bc of what I perceive to be true. I'm also reading other forums to learn about all the shenanigans that go on in the online industry.

This site has a large membership but it's mainly the same people that post over and over without many joining in...I believe if we were to be just a bit more cordial when replying to someone you would get a lot more participation. I'm sure that a huge amount read these posts and it puts them off from posting because of replies from some that are not necessary. I believe if you educate in a most positive way you will get to the masses and have more input from your members...no need to make a new person feel small just to look big...this is my perception of a lot of these post and I find a lot of them quite rude for no reason.

I also find members that jump on the band-wagon when someone is calling out a newbie or tearing them up. Only a few will actually take up for that person being put down. It's situations like these that keep participation low.

Just my buck-fifty

That's a good point Gloria. I remember when I first joined this forum it seemed a little "cliquey" and I was a little nervous about making my first few posts too. However, I found that if I had a concern or a question and posted or asked it politely that people responded in kind.

Also to be fair, there have been a few new members who have been shills (or really appeared to be) or who were rude right out of the gate as well.

I pretty well avoid threads where there's some kind of personal bashing going on - if I wanted a soap opera I'd watch it on tv. I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to learn things about online gambling and which casinos to trust my hard earned dosh to - and who better to learn from than people who have been playing or otherwise involved for a lot longer than me?

Some are abrasive, some are opinionated, some are nuts...just like my own dear family.

[gloria460]

Some are abrasive, some are opinionated, some are nuts...just like my own dear family

LMAO...we all have a few relatives and friends like that...I had to chuckle out loud on that

[DiamondGeezer]

JHV you make a great point about affiliates. However I can't see that list happening here as it would get too political/libellous.

Affiliates - ah yes! I'd never heard of that word until I entered the casino world .

I think this is where the corporate casino operators made a huge mistake. I mean what other industry would farm out their marketing to a bunch of kids/amateurs/entrepreneurs they have barely met and seemingly have next to no control over. I mean a lot of the websites are the worst I have ever seen in the internet. They are just so bad it is untrue. It's difficult to have a lot of faith in it when a lot of people are doing it as a hobby.

Before I get shot down for this I do use the CM links and also have used links from two posters here. But in principle it is very hard to see how the affiliate system is good for the player given that the affiliate and the casino have the same aim fundamentally.

I find it very hard to understand why big casinos don't have just a handfull of professional affiliates. Then these guys could get some proper trade associations going to deal with player disputes. Certainly the current system is a very weird business model. It doesn't serve players well and doesn't help the good casinos a great deal either.

Guys and girls it is not healthy that this is almost the only place of sanctity and accountability. We really need about five Casinomeister's! I don't think CM can deal with all the problems by himself.

[DiamondGeezer]

Does anyone ever worry that Bryan might have had enough of all this? What if he sold the business on to the highest bidder? You couldn't blame him for it, this is the way of the world.

What if Bryan got sick? Would Vortran take over? Or Max? Maybe Spearmaster would come to our aid? Is there succession planning I wonder?

Bryan you are fit and well I hope? Please do not go skiing next year .

[Casinomeister]

Does anyone ever worry that Bryan might have had enough of all this? What if he sold the business on to the highest bidder? You couldn't blame him for it, this is the way of the world.

What if Bryan got sick? Would Vortran take over? Or Max? Maybe Spearmaster would come to our aid? Is there succession planning I wonder?

Bryan you are fit and well I hope? Please do not go skiing next year .

Actually - I merely give direction and provide the info for everyone here to use, but it's the members who really are empowering the site. Hell, I've been on both a summer break and spring break since May (4 weeks total) and this place didn't skip a beat.

Don't underestimate the power of a well-schooled Casinomeister member.

Am I fit? I can probably outrun and do more pushups than most guys half my age. But who knows, I may decide to retire and run my own website. Oops! That's what I'm doing already