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Old 3rd January 2008, 07:30 AM
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Thumbs up Blackjack rules changed in the UK

Old rules stay the same with the difference that now you can

1) Split any two cards ( Before splitting 4's,5's or 10's wasn't allowed)

2) Double down on any two cards ( Before only 9-11 was allowed)

Overall this gives better chances to the player. On the other side most players seem to completely throw away the advantage by doubling on 8 against 6 and other silly hits etc.

House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

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Are all of the other rules standardized casino to casino, or do they vary? i.e dealer hit soft 17 stay hard at one casino and not another? Just curious, and if there is an absolute standard would you be so kind as to post it or someone point me to it?

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Old rules stay the same with the difference that now you can

1) Split any two cards ( Before splitting 4's,5's or 10's wasn't allowed)

2) Double down on any two cards ( Before only 9-11 was allowed)

Overall this gives better chances to the player. On the other side most players seem to completely throw away the advantage by doubling on 8 against 6 and other silly hits etc.

House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

Good news


I wish they had rule #1 in the USA!!! I wonder why they changed it The only reason I could see to split 4/5/10's is if you're in a tournament
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Yeah I noticed the change a few months ago. Theres no way in hell Im gonna split 5's &10's
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Are all of the other rules standardized casino to casino, or do they vary? i.e dealer hit soft 17 stay hard at one casino and not another? Just curious, and if there is an absolute standard would you be so kind as to post it or someone point me to it?

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Very rarely british casinos have different rules. You will find the same everywhere.


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I wish they had rule #1 in the USA!!! I wonder why they changed it The only reason I could see to split 4/5/10's is if you're in a tournament

Actually splitting 4's is advisable when dealer shows a 5's and 6's.


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Yeah I noticed the change a few months ago. Theres no way in hell Im gonna split 5's &10's

Many do especially against 5's and 6's
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House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

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The house edge is not 0.47%, at least not unless they also removed the European no peek rules. Assuming 6 decks, stand on S17, no resplits, deck is not shuffled after each hand, and basic strategy without CD exceptions. Both Wizard of Odds house edge calc and my house edge calc estimate 0.589%.
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Actually splitting 4's is advisable when dealer shows a 5's and 6's.
Yes, when DAS is allowed, it is favorable to split 4s against a 5 or 6. It's a close call that only decreases house edge by ~0.003%. I'm surprised they ever restriced these splits. Many players do like to split 10s, and letting them do so favors the casino.
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The house edge is not 0.47%, at least not unless they also removed the European no peek rules. Assuming 6 decks, stand on S17, no resplits, deck is not shuffled after each hand, and basic strategy without CD exceptions. Both Wizard of Odds house edge calc and my house edge calc estimate 0.589%.

You must be forgetting something. I check with the calc and it shows a realistic return of 0.47%
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