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Old 4th January 2008, 04:37 AM
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Old rules stay the same with the difference that now you can

1) Split any two cards ( Before splitting 4's,5's or 10's wasn't allowed)

2) Double down on any two cards ( Before only 9-11 was allowed)

Overall this gives better chances to the player. On the other side most players seem to completely throw away the advantage by doubling on 8 against 6 and other silly hits etc.

House edge under old rules: 0.57016% (6 decks)

Houge edge under new rules: 0.47406%

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What is the house edge, if you add Early Surrender (except against an Ace) to it? All casinos in Macau offer this.
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Old 21st January 2008, 11:38 PM
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What is the house edge, if you add Early Surrender (except against an Ace) to it? All casinos in Macau offer this.
The house edge calc on my site is the only one I know of that includes early surrender against 9-10 (but not ace). See http://www.beatingbonuses.com/houseedge.htm .
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Yes, when DAS is allowed, it is favorable to split 4s against a 5 or 6. It's a close call that only decreases house edge by ~0.003%. I'm surprised they ever restriced these splits. Many players do like to split 10s, and letting them do so favors the casino.
Unless you are a card counter. In which case, splitting 10s against 4-6 with a +4 count using standardized counting systems (2-5 worth 1 point; 10-ace worth -1 point, 6-9 worth 0 points, then divide by approx remaining decks in shoe) becomes a +ev play.

So this favors professionals, somewhat as well.
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Unless you are a card counter. In which case, splitting 10s against 4-6 with a +4 count using standardized counting systems (2-5 worth 1 point; 10-ace worth -1 point, 6-9 worth 0 points, then divide by approx remaining decks in shoe) becomes a +ev play.

So this favors professionals, somewhat as well.

+4 of what? I cannot imagine it applying to online. I would say, never split 10's online ever
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I dont play much blackjack online but all I can say is the one pack game reshuffles every hand. No counting strategy applies.

Then there is the random 6 or 8 pack, This only means you can have 8 of the same card at the one table, but again, the cards are reshuffled. No counting strategy applies.

Again when the dealer has a 6 and I have 5,5. I wont split, I'll double down. I would say that offers me better odds

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+4 of what? I cannot imagine it applying to online. I would say, never split 10's online ever
I have strayed onto the wrong forum again

Still wont split 10's ant certainly not 5's
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Unless you are a card counter. In which case, splitting 10s against 4-6 with a +4 count using standardized counting systems (2-5 worth 1 point; 10-ace worth -1 point, 6-9 worth 0 points, then divide by approx remaining decks in shoe) becomes a +ev play.

So this favors professionals, somewhat as well.
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