RTG's Caribbean 21 lie

[Pirateofc21]

This "robot" stuff is a nonsense. As Bryan himself stated previously, RTG pulled the game, concluded it was OK and acknowledged that this fellow is one lucky sonofabitch. There was no evidence that the game was performing off-kilter. And how WOULD it? How do you affect the outcome of a game dealt off a remote server? The implication that the player somehow cheated the software with this device is entirely unsubstantiatable.

Yes, he did "cheat"; he "cheated" the laws of probability, LOL. That's what the casino is in a panic about.

Sh*t happens and players actually win on occasions. Casinos hate winners. Casinos loathe, abhor and detest from the bottom of their guts winners who win so much it actually hurts them. Didn't Kerry Packer put a dent in Mirage's quarterly results one time he won twenty consecutive 100K bacc bets?

But they paid him his legit win - and RTG should damn well pay this man his.

Thank you finally someone who has a grasp on what happened. I was baiting him the same way he was baiting me. I am posting one part of my recorded conversation with this manager at Faircasinos.com and I will try the same here.

[Pirateofc21]

What if he was actually using a robot, though, and the rules explicitly bar this? Whether the rule itself makes any particular sense, what if he broke it?

I didn't admit to anything. listen to the tape. Then tell me what you think.

[xianna]

I didn't admit to anything. listen to the tape. Then tell me what you think.

Pirate, can you give a link to the page where the recording can be found?

I went to Faircasinos and found the Caribbean21 thread, but I didn't see where to download the tape.

[Pirateofc21]

Pirate, can you give a link to the page where the recording can be found?

I went to Faircasinos and found the Caribbean21 thread, but I didn't see where to download the tape.

I just sent it to the admin. He probably hasn't had a chance to post it yet. I am sending a second to him.

[sirius]

It's up now on the thread here:
http://www.faircasinos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179

[mary]

It's up now on the thread here:
http://www.faircasinos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179

Holy freakin' cow.

[docdekay]

Holy freakin' cow.

WOW. That is telling.

[thesmacker]

Casinomeister, on what grounds did you come to the conclusion that P of the C was in the wrong here? Do you know something that we don't, and if so will you let us in because from those phone calls I just listened to it seemed that the person from RTG was trying to strong arm this player. Please enlighten us as to why you are so sure the pirates did something wrong. Because I don't know if I'd take the word of the person he was talking to on the phone, he sounded pretty defensive and that he was trying to coerce Pirates into saying something that he knew nothing about. Not to mention with RTG casinos track record I wouldn't ever take there word on anything. If you could clear this up please post and let us know.

[xianna]

Wow. Amazing.

Do you think he knew you were recording the conversations, Pirate?

[Casinomeister]

Hi All,

First of all, I'm not going to post the phone conversations that p21 sent until I receive permission from the casino to do so. There is a privacy issue here that is covered in this forum's terms and conditions.

I feel this is a also good time to sit back and let the smoke clear and try to put things into perspective. You will lose site of what you are shooting at if you are endlessly sending bullets down range; the smoke will obscure your target.

Perhaps the player could post how much he has won versus how much he has deposited over the past year here in this thread. Doing so, most of us will agree that he has the money to hire a decent lawyer that should be willing to tackle this in a US court. I honestly believe that the player has legal recourses (civil court or "out of court" settlements). This is the proper place to hash this out, especially with the funds involved.

Here is a question most of you should be asking yourselves: Why hasn't he done this yet? If it were me, the day that RTG pulled the game down, I would have retained a lawyer...and I also would have kept my mouth shut. This player obviously did not do this. Now don't get me wrong, this is not an admission of guilt. It merely gives a notion that something is not right.

Another question you should be asking yourselves: Why has the player been so vocal in these message boards, but has yet to pick up a phone and give the software provider RTG a call. Their main office is in Atlanta, and I've forwarded their phone number to the player so he or his lawyer can talk to them first hand.

Considering the amount of $$$ involved, this is the first thing I would have done.

Sometimes it's best to chill, and let things take their course. I think it's in the best interest for most parties involved to either negotiate directly via full time representatives, or take it to a place where they handle legal disputes.