RTG's Caribbean 21 lie

[aceinhole21]

Originally Posted by casinomeister

The Pirate broke the rules in the the casino's opinion when he opened his mouth and said that he used a robot. This is on tape and has been broadcast everywhere but here, The breaking of the rule is clear and simple. Now whether or not this rule was ACTUALLY broken we'll probably never know.

I can't agree here. The casino stopped paying Pirate BEFORE he said these things. so what rule did he break before then? and saying you broke a rule is not the same as actually breaking one. If I admit to killing someone, but I did not actually do it, I would not be charged with anything (except possibly lying, if that is an offense). Hamptons rules do not say, "player's winnings will be void if he lies."

it is obvious what happened here - Hamptons paid Pirate for awhile to make it look like they intended to pay it all out, but would stop when:

1) Pirate lost the money back (this I think was their main hope, considering their absurd "additional" wagering requirements), but I don't think Pirate was playing any more. or,

2) they could think of some other way out. I really can't say, but I still have my doubts hamptons could handle this debt. I never even heard of them until this.

[cipher]

Originally Posted by aceinhole21

I can't agree here. The casino stopped paying Pirate BEFORE he said these things. so what rule did he break before then? and saying you broke a rule is not the same as actually breaking one. If I admit to killing someone, but I did not actually do it, I would not be charged with anything (except possibly lying, if that is an offense). Hamptons rules do not say, "player's winnings will be void if he lies."

it is obvious what happened here - Hamptons paid Pirate for awhile to make it look like they intended to pay it all out, but would stop when:

1) Pirate lost the money back (this I think was their main hope, considering their absurd "additional" wagering requirements), but I don't think Pirate was playing any more. or,

2) they could think of some other way out. I really can't say, but I still have my doubts hamptons could handle this debt. I never even heard of them until this.

Strangely enough I started playing on line when the Casinomeiter first came on line (about 6 years ago) and I never heard anything PRO or CON about Hampton or Delano Casino until this issue came up either. Have a good one.

Cipher

[dominique]

Originally Posted by cipher

Strangely enough I started playing on line when the Casinomeiter first came on line (about 6 years ago) and I never heard anything PRO or CON about Hampton or Delano Casino until this issue came up either. Have a good one.

Cipher

Actually, I have had good feedback about Hampton. Never heard anything bad until now. I had heard something negative about Delano (don't remember details now) and decided not to promote them in the first place, so never heard any more.

However that all may be, I am wondering about something different.

Pirate said he played at a number of other RTG casinos before, and also won.

Does anyone know which ones of these paid and which did not?

Just a point of interest to me.

[gamblinboi]

Originally Posted by dominique

Actually, I have had good feedback about Hampton. Never heard anything bad until now. I had heard something negative about Delano (don't remember details now) and decided not to promote them in the first place, so never heard any more.

However that all may be, I am wondering about something different.

Pirate said he played at a number of other RTG casinos before, and also won.

Does anyone know which ones of these paid and which did not?

Just a point of interest to me.

Dominique, one we know for sure where he was paid was Phoenician. They saw no problem with his play, dont think he used a bot, made basic strategy errors, and welcome him to come back.

[jetset]

"The casino stopped paying Pirate BEFORE he said these things. so what rule did he break before then?"

Bryan, any way you could check this - did the payments stop before the telephone calls?

It does raise an important point. Did they stop paying Pirate at the same time as the Caribbean 21 game was pulled, for example, and was that after the telephone calls or before?

[jinnia]

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Then why did they continue to allow this player to keep playing, if they can monitor operations as thy happen. Surely the play in question would have thrown up a flag on his account at time of playing IF it was not a normal play.

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[dominique]

Originally Posted by gamblinboi

Dominique, one we know for sure where he was paid was Phoenician. They saw no problem with his play, dont think he used a bot, made basic strategy errors, and welcome him to come back.

Thanks, gamblinboi. Good for them. This is one casino I will start promoting.

Any others who paid?

[jetset]

"The casino stopped paying Pirate BEFORE he said these things. so what rule did he break before then?"

Bryan, any way you could check this - did the payments stop before the telephone calls?

It does raise an important point. Did they stop paying Pirate at the same time as the Caribbean 21 game was pulled, for example, and was that after the telephone calls or before?

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by jetset

Bryan, any way you could check this - did the payments stop before the telephone calls?

The game was yanked on the 4th of January, about the same time all of the "Pirate's" acounts were locked up at ALL casinos. It wasn't until we were at the ICE that the phone conversation took place (I think it was a Tuesday), where Hampton's stated that they had investigated the Pirate's play, and that he was using a robot.

We still have a stalemate by the way. Nobody has moved either way. I'm awaiting word from Delanos to see whether or not they are planning to pay the "Pirate". If they have a reason not to, it should be an interesting one.