RTG's Caribbean 21 lie

[Pirateofc21]

I was baiting this man into giving me information. Why is it right for him but not for me. I wasn't there Bryan. How was my interest protected. How do I know what they played for you is genuine.

I CATEGORICALLY DENY ANY USE OF A ROBOT PLAYER. wHAT YOU HEARD WAS MY PLAYING ALONG TO GET INFO OUT OF HIM. wHY CAN HE TALK OF SCAMMING CASINOS TOGHETHER, AND OTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND NOT BE ACCOUNTABLE.

Bryan with God as my witness I didn't use a robot of any kind. I am ready to release the recordings I have. Consider the impact of your words. I have kept my mouth shut and this is what I get for it. SCREWED. Help me Bryan Listen to my recordings where it is clear that I am being baited and set up. Why wasn't I allowed to be present. Bryan how do you know the information is genuine. I haven't heard what they played for you.
Why are you so willing to accept their information withouut so much as even talking to me first before passing judgement. Your words have impact and I did not admit to anything at any time. You know RTG is still holding balances of mine in other casinos. HOW IS THAT LEGAL. C'mon Bryan that's stealing. The money in those accounts is mine. Why can they steal that too?

Just for the sake of arguement Bryan why can you publically call me a fraudster. I am sick of being quiet and lied about and ripped off. Talk about apologies what about your impact on reputation? I told you from the get go they would try to get out of paying me. This is what I get for doing the right thing.
I am not a liar Bryan and don't appreciate your implying oteherwise.
I have a reputation too and I have had nothing but lies spread about me and large amounts of money stolen from me . I want to takew a polygraph test and would expect the same with Hampton mgmt.


I AM NOT A FRAUDSTER BRYAN AND IT IS RTG WHO IS WASTING YOUR TIME. WHY ARE YOU SO WILLING TO BELEIVE THEM. wHAT YOU HEARD WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT OR OUTRIGHT FABRICATION.

[Pirateofc21]

I initially took that this was some kind of gigantic early April Fool joke. Winning 1.4 mill at a shady RTG is bizarre and nuts beyond belief. Heck, you bust a gut to collect 5K; 1.4 MILLION??? Get real.

A lot now persuades me that he's legit, mainly the bet size he ended up employing. 1.4 mill is tough flat betting $100; betting $10,000 and it becomes a relatively easy task. 140 winning bets - Carribean21 - high variance - total walk in the park.

What we have here is a total nutcase (no offence, Pirate) who pressed his luck beyond sanity at the wrong casino, got a bit lucky and is getting shafted. In other words: business as usual at RTG.

Pirate - this is Bryan's forum. Don't badmouth him. Apologize for letting your temper get the better of you, promise not to do it again and you might even find an ally.

If possible those game logs need to be got hold of. I really don't think for one second that the casino will willingly release them because they will most likely exonerate the player of any wrong-doing. Thus, their refusal will lend a lot of weight to the player's case. If they have nothing to hide, release them and let a recognized authority examine them.

I would say that's the first step.

Caruso: Now your talking. Why can't I have my logs. I asked and was told no. The game is still not back. I had to wait, accept being labeled a fraud, had balances seized that they are not entitled to. THIS IS OUTRIGHT STEALING NO?
I Welcome inspection of any kind. I have nothing to hide.

[Pirateofc21]

I think pirate did the right thing with his apology.

Now, I don´t know who is the liar here if RTG or Pirate. But if RTG can prove that Pirate was using a robot player, it will be a great way to show their honesty, otherwise they should pay pirate´s winnings.

RTG originally told Bryan "the game is fine and the player got lucky"
this is public knowledge in the Forum. So what happened to change their mind. They didn't like the introduction of the character Pirateofc21 and that is when trouble started. Correct me if I'm wrong Bryan but they did tell you this
Didn't they?

[Pirateofc21]

RTG originally told Bryan "the game is fine and the player got lucky"
this is public knowledge in the Forum. So what happened to change their mind. They didn't like the introduction of the character Pirateofc21 and that is when trouble started. Correct me if I'm wrong Bryan but they did tell you this
Didn't they?

I would like permission to post the recorded conversation I had with casino mgmt. I have already sent copies to Eric Morris at Gambling Online magazine.
One last time I HAVE NEVER USED A ROBOT PLAYER OR SOFTWARE OF ANY KIND. JUST ME AND THE GAME. I BEAT THE GAME FAIR AND SQUARE AND NOW THEY WILL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO NOT PAY.

Bryan, don't give up on me I am not a fraud. There is more to the conversation then the clip you heard. Just exactly what did you hear me say? Get my game logs from RTG and have them analyzed by an outside agent. There is nothing funny going on. Remember that this money was won over several sessions. They were hoping I would lose. I didn't.

[Pirateofc21]

I would like permission to post the recorded conversation I had with casino mgmt. I have already sent copies to Eric Morris at Gambling Online magazine.
One last time I HAVE NEVER USED A ROBOT PLAYER OR SOFTWARE OF ANY KIND. JUST ME AND THE GAME. I BEAT THE GAME FAIR AND SQUARE AND NOW THEY WILL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO NOT PAY.

Bryan, don't give up on me I am not a fraud. There is more to the conversation then the clip you heard. Just exactly what did you hear me say? Get my game logs from RTG and have them analyzed by an outside agent. There is nothing funny going on. Remember that this money was won over several sessions. They were hoping I would lose. I didn't.

To all I have just tried to log into my account at Delano's. I have a balance over 70,000 there and I am locked out. THIS HAS TO BE ILLEGAL. BRYAN HELP, THEY CAN'T KEEP TAKING MONEY FROM ME SOMEBODY HELP. tHEY ARE STEALING EVERYTHING I HAVE. PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME.

[Pirateofc21]

To all I have just tried to log into my account at Delano's. I have a balance over 70,000 there and I am locked out. THIS HAS TO BE ILLEGAL. BRYAN HELP, THEY CAN'T KEEP TAKING MONEY FROM ME SOMEBODY HELP. tHEY ARE STEALING EVERYTHING I HAVE. PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME.

This is nuts. As I write they are closing more of my accounts. I just lost over 70,000 dollars. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? Bryan you've got to stop this. This is outright stealing. God damn it man this has got to stop. People they are locking me out of whatever RTG casinos I have an account at. I just lost over 70,000 at Delanos. I am locked out. THIS AIN'T RIGHT.

Bryan you are wrong about me I am not a fraud and they can't keep closing new accounts. They are stepping all over me taking every cent I have in their casinos. This can't be right.

[Pirateofc21]

This is nuts. As I write they are closing more of my accounts. I just lost over 70,000 dollars. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? Bryan you've got to stop this. This is outright stealing. God damn it man this has got to stop. People they are locking me out of whatever RTG casinos I have an account at. I just lost over 70,000 at Delanos. I am locked out. THIS AIN'T RIGHT.

Bryan you are wrong about me I am not a fraud and they can't keep closing new accounts. They are stepping all over me taking every cent I have in their casinos. This can't be right.

THAT's the last straw RTG. I am seek legal counsel and I will take every action necessary to stop this stealing of funds. Delano's has nothing to do with the original issue. People that's 70,000 they just stole from me.
I am locked out where I wasn't.

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Wow. Why in the world would you have said, to anyone, for any purpose whatsoever, that you WERE using a robot? Have they given you any explanation (other than your own unfortunate remarks) for their conclusion that you were using a robot? Is there a technical basis for their position?

This is wild. Somebody's lying HUGE here, and there is enough money involved to make it mighty interesting (maybe to the authorities -- where are you located). If it's Hampton/Delano doing the lying, and they're caught, one hopes that this would be enough to dump them into the trashbin of online casino history.

(On the other hand, you might simply have made a horribly ill-advised statement to them in your conversation (that is, that you were using the robot), and they're now on that like white on rice -- right or wrong, you said it, and without any particular prevarication on their part, they are using it as their ticket out from under $1.2M.)

[caruso]

This "robot" stuff is a nonsense. As Bryan himself stated previously, RTG pulled the game, concluded it was OK and acknowledged that this fellow is one lucky sonofabitch. There was no evidence that the game was performing off-kilter. And how WOULD it? How do you affect the outcome of a game dealt off a remote server? The implication that the player somehow cheated the software with this device is entirely unsubstantiatable.

Yes, he did "cheat"; he "cheated" the laws of probability, LOL. That's what the casino is in a panic about.

Sh*t happens and players actually win on occasions. Casinos hate winners. Casinos loathe, abhor and detest from the bottom of their guts winners who win so much it actually hurts them. Didn't Kerry Packer put a dent in Mirage's quarterly results one time he won twenty consecutive 100K bacc bets?

But they paid him his legit win - and RTG should damn well pay this man his.

[caps]

What if he was actually using a robot, though, and the rules explicitly bar this? Whether the rule itself makes any particular sense, what if he broke it?