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Old 20th February 2004, 10:54 AM
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I had the following conversation with Hamptons support online. There is nothing significant here, but I guess I am trying to say that players should keep the heat on them and not forget about this.

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Josh'
Josh: Hello, how may we help you today?
you: hello
you: want to ask why the Pirate hasn't gotten paid?
Josh: forgive me but I do not seem to understand your question
Josh: May I please have your user name?
you: the guy who won 1.3 million dollars
you: I'm not sure I should play at this casino, i mean how can i be guaranteed to get paid?
Josh: I do not have any information on that. This is a serious enterprise, our custumers get paid when they win
you: well it is all over the message boards that someone won 1.3 million dollars but didnt get paid. is that not true?
Josh: As I stated before, I have no information whatsoever on that
you: Ok no problem. Thanks
Josh: My pleasure indeed, have a great night
Old 20th February 2004, 02:42 PM
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I applaud Phoenician Casino. They have definitely distanced themselves from Hampton Casino with that post.

You have to give them credit for standing up for what they feel was right.

Dean stated, “What were they thinking as they were watching his play go from 200k to 300k to 400k etc it was their decision to chase the losses and now they have to deal with it.”

So that’s one RTG casino willing to take a stand. Will Delano and the others follow?
Old 20th February 2004, 04:52 PM
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Phoenecian post is outstanding.

Bryan they need to be recognized for being a first class operation.

An RTG sw powered casino with a sensible management.

I don't see any problem with the ad. They paid Pc21. They need to get the message out to the gambling community.
I would certainly hav't to second PORTIA's motion that the Phoenician be recognized as a first class operation. This is the third instance within the last 30 days that I've seen Dean Michaels jump right in the middle of a situation and tell it the way it is. I've got to add that one of those instances was while Dean was on vacation and he still got back to me. I've never recommended a RTG casino before but I'm recommending the Phoenician as long as Dean Michaels is running it.
Old 20th February 2004, 05:56 PM
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Dean's comments on the Hampton matter itself are commendable.

Dean's use of the Pirate situation for his advertising campains and his profit is contemptible.

But then, I'm a deeply cynical player; it'll be a cold day in hell before any gambling operation successfully dupes me with deceipt or ad copy.

Fortunately for the industry, my kind are rare.
Old 20th February 2004, 06:07 PM
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ty Cipher.

You know Cipher, if this Delano's Casino and ah, what's the name of the other casino that owes Pc21 some cash?
(other than Hamptons - who just plain do not have the cash to pay)

Well, when those other RTG casinos that owe Pc21 his winnings, step forward and release his balances, they should also be considered for the highest recognition. Unless they act like they are paying grudgingly - as if it were beat out of them. But then that would be dumb - for a casino to make itself appear to be tight fisted and cheap.

Surely, if you are going to pay people who win you have got to be smart and follow Phoenecians example. Get as much marketing mileage out of it as you can. It would be a great assignment to write marketing copy for a casino who is paying off a winner as well known as this Pc21 has become.

This event is going to be etched in online gaming folklore and history.
And there doesn't have to be any losers, or bad guys, or bankrupts in that story - if all involved had the foresight of this Phoenecian casino and RTG.

Think Phoenecian Casino was also smart getting there marketing of the return of this game out there early (and it should be loud) 'cause when Delano's and the other casinos oweing money to the Player come thru with there payments they could eclipse the other casinos in publicity.
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Caruso : It is true that i am dupable. Always fall for a good sales pitch.

You know when they are hawking stuff, putting on the performance :

"You get the Bread Slicer, the pruning Knife the Ginsu knife , the steak knives, paring knife, fish cleaning knife and the orange juicer - all guaranteed for life - for just $29.99" I immediately am the first to reach for my cash, as if on cue, so that the barker can point at me and say : "Not so fast, hold on to your money for a second more. For $29.99 I'll thow in TWO of everything - today only." I'm all over it. "I'll take three sets"

In the online gaming world, let's cut the good guys who pay a little slack. I gave up on perfection a long time ago.

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Well, with all the recent comments by RTG and Phoenician, I'm going to have to take the side of the player on this now. It appears that Hampton screwed up. They raised the limits, hoping the player would lose and they got beat--plain and simple. Their excuses just don't wash IMO.

Hampton, I think you should settle this problem and move forward; unless you can present some solid evidence that shows the player cheated, you really don't have a leg to stand on. And for heaven's sake, don't raise your limits again.
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Hampton, I think you should settle this problem and move forward; unless you can present some solid evidence that shows the player cheated, you really don't have a leg to stand on. And for heaven's sake, don't raise your limits again.

dirk, there is no doubt anymore - there IS no solid evidence that he cheated cuz he DIDN'T. Phoenician, RTG BOTH state this. The play was LEGIT. HAMPTONS MUST PAY because there is NOTHING that they can present to change it - Pirate won FAIR and SQUARE.
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Portia: I wasn't suggesting you're a dupe. I know you're no less cynical than me.
Old 20th February 2004, 07:49 PM
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Bravo to Phoenician! They have done the right thing and should be commended for their response to the player. They have turned what could have been a PR nightmare into a dream come true for their casino. I expect players to flock to them in droves for their efforts. Hampton and the others had better follow suit and fast. Time is running and the court of public opinion is definitely NOT in their favor. Kudos to all helping this guy collect his rightful winnings (and they know who they are).
 

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