RTG's Caribbean 21 lie

[cipher]

Originally Posted by cipher

Oh they were on the Forum for about a half hour yesterday.

This JPEG shows the newest member of the Casinomeister Forums as being
M. McMain of RTG.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/rtg_mmcmain.html

Thanks for the assist.

Cipher

[linda7]

Hi Cipher:

I clicked on the URL you posted, regarding M. McCain from RTG being on the forum yesterday. I was not able to find a post from this person. Do you think he/she just came on to read the posts? If so, I wonder why there was no reply from M. McCain....this group is really strange.

***hugs***

[jyde]

The link is for his profile - no posts.

[jyde]

If they agree with Hamptons actions I'm sure we'll soon see some supportive posts from RTG. If they don't agree.....

[SFeagleAgain]

Originally Posted by linda7

Dear SFeagle:

I cannot believe I did not address you in my previous post. Therefore, please accept my apology. I think you are an exceptional attorney, and you clearly explained how Hampton will never get away with this scam. I only hope that if I ever need legal counsel that I will be able to pursuade you to come to my rescue. I thank you for your kind words regarding my post and I am glad the ending made you laugh.

I wish you much laughter always.

Thank you so much for the kind words, but there is absolutely no apology necessary! If I could practice in your jurisdiction, I would be most pleased to help you with anything you needed. I am one of those who worked my way up from being a legal secretary and put myself through school and I hate to see the little guy get hosed, ever! I just reread your post and laughed again. It is a classic!!!

Side note to Mr. McMain: It would behoove you at this point to get your McAss in here and start providing some serious answers before irreparable damage is done. The clock is ticking and public sentiment is not in your favor. You also need to gag your thugs before they say anything else.

[toofast4u]

Wow, this is huge, I just spent over an hour reading through only about 1/2 the posts in this thread.

Always being the opinionated person I am, I will post my opinion
Just judging from what I have read from both sides of the story here, it seems the casino is looking for loopholes to get out of paying this lucky player. I see no supporting evidience on the casinos part suggesting that the player used some sort of software to gain advantage and create this big of win. I do however from the little conversation that I did hear the casino manager trying to bribe the player into admitting to something he did not do, saying to the player 'you will not get anything unless you admit to cheating' otherwise trying to bribe you into lying when you will just get screwed if you do.

It does seem unlikely that someone would be able to accumulate such a huge win with so little, but anything is possible. I won 13k off of a $25 bonus one time playing blackjack, and I do not cheat and I would have been down someones throught if they would have accused me a doing so.

So, I am going with pirate on this one, I see no evidence that the casino is telling the truth.

If I were in your shoes, I would stop at nothing, no matter how many hoops I had to jump through, or how much red tape I would have to deal with, I would not rest until every penny of that 1.3 million was in my possesion. Justice will prevail in the end, you will get what you deserve. My best advice is to be very very careful who you get to defend and speak for you. You are dealing with some big money here, and they are obviously pulling out the big guns on this one and its obvious they will not budge, your best bet is the legal system. Hell, this could make for a good movie someday.

This makes for good reading and it is by far the most interesting thread I have read in Casinomiester.

[captainsmudge]

Just wanted to say well done to all you people out there who are supporting the rights of this player and others. Without the support and knowledge of the community that exists on this forum it seems that casino operators would try to dishonour the whole concept of playing. I really hope that these people are made to cough up what they owe by way of the proper channels. It seems that integrity holds no place within some operations. The fact that they are exposed here by everyone is priceless. When P21 gets paid will the drinks be on him?

[portia]

Question to RTG : Will the players request for his play logs be honored?

[caps]

It is possible, and perhaps likely, that I'm being thick here -- but what would be the significance of the player logs? Folks have alluded to the significance of the logs throughout the thread, but I've not quite understood why. Wouldn't they show something that seems not be in dispute -- that they guy won a staggering number of very large bets? Wouldn't it be more relevant for the casino to disclose the technical information that it says supports its conclusion that he used a robot? I obviously could be missing something.

And, in any event, whether dispositive or not (or even relevant), a player should ALWAYS be able to get his/her logs.

[GrandMaster]

With hindsight, the Pirate should have videotaped himself playing, but in the absence of the videotape, the player logs are the best record of his play. If I could see the logs, I could decide exactly how lucky he was, assuming the game was OK. Winning 130 units in 2000 hands is very different from winning 130 units in 200 hands. If he was playing at a very even pace without taking breaks, reacting consistently very quickly, that would be evidence for the alleged robot. I would also check whether he played correct strategy. If he deviated from it and was significantly luckier than could be expected, that could indicate he found a bug in the software and exploited it

BTW, I would also like to see the mouse movement logs.