RTG's Caribbean 21 lie

[amandajm]

Pirate..

I see no RTG banners on this site. Neither have i seen Bryan say he won't help.

Why go into one like that? Are you saying Bryan has contacted you and said you have no case or something? Do tell.

[Pirateofc21]

Pirate..

I see no RTG banners on this site. Neither have i seen Bryan say he won't help.

Why go into one like that? Are you saying Bryan has contacted you and said you have no case or something? Do tell.

Yes, He says I should have checked the rules before using one. But I didn't use one. This is so lame. Bryan isn't interested in the truth. Whatever they showed him at RTG was enough for him. I have sent him my personal tel. # and asked him to call collect. No call as of yet. Don't you find it strange that the game hasn't returned?

[jyde]

Easy now. Casinomeister was in London for the ICE show. Don't know if he is back yet.

[Pirateofc21]

Easy now. Casinomeister was in London for the ICE show. Don't know if he is back yet.

His response to me is below

Hi Brian,

As you know, I've been in London all week, thus the non-responsiveness.

As for the amount that was owed to you, I believe this is voided since it states in their terms and conditions:

5. All wagers must be placed through the user interface provided by Hampton Casino on our Web pages. Any Internet wagering through other means, including the use of a "robot" player, is strictly forbidden. In the event that use of non-approved client software is detected, Management reserves the right to invalidate all such wagers retroactively, cancel the player's account, or take any other appropriate action.

Since you were using a robot (or "non-approved client software"), your accounts have been cancelled and winnings forfeited. This is very unfortunate, but you should have checked around and used this sort of software on casinos that don't have an issue about this.

Sincerely,

Bryan


I WAS NOT USING A ROBOT PLAYER NOR SOFTWARE OF ANY KIND.
tHIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE!

[Pirateofc21]

I think his response states his position very clearly. This sends the message of do what you want to the vendor and casino operators all over. You don't have to pay just say a robot was used.
This is the very thing he says he is against. But Ii don't see that from his response.

[caruso]

Pirate, this is bullsh*t. For one thing, a casino should REJOICE in a player auto-playing a negative expectation game at this level. Microgaming does. Even if you WERE "auto-playing" this is no reason to void anything. All this is is an attempt to get out of paying. Player wins; casino invokes "robot" bullsh*t; casino voids winnings.

Unfortunately, your case is a bit bigger than most. Listen to Mary. RTG is located in the US and bound by US laws. Offer 10% of your winnings upon collection to the best lawyer out there. Heck, make it 25%. That's a $350,000 payday. You'll have the biggest, ball-bustingest lawyers in the country breaking your door down to offer their services.

Don't even DREAM of quitting after just hitting the first obstacle.

[Pirateofc21]

Pirate, this is bullsh*t. For one thing, a casino should REJOICE in a player auto-playing a negative expectation game at this level. Microgaming does. Even if you WERE "auto-playing" this is no reason to void anything. All this is is an attempt to get out of paying. Player wins; casino invokes "robot" bullsh*t; casino voids winnings.

Unfortunately, your case is a bit bigger than most. Listen to Mary. RTG is located in the US and bound by US laws. Offer 10% of your winnings upon collection to the best lawyer out there. Heck, make it 25%. That's a $350,000 payday. You'll have the biggest, ball-bustingest lawyers in the country breaking your door down to offer their services.

Don't even DREAM of quitting after just hitting the first obstacle.

Oh, I quite agree, but the simple truth is that I didn't use any software. I just played the game. I have consulted my lawyer and he is looking into this though I can't be more specific. The bottom line is I shouldn't even have to talk to a lawyer. They started paying me then stopped when someone came up with this robot player nonsense.

[Pirateofc21]

Oh, I quite agree, but the simple truth is that I didn't use any software. I just played the game. I have consulted my lawyer and he is looking into this though I can't be more specific. The bottom line is I shouldn't even have to talk to a lawyer. They started paying me then stopped when someone came up with this robot player nonsense.

I don't intend to just walk away but what else can I do? I can maybe contact RTG in Atlanta, but I doubt I would even get someone on the phone. This can't be left this way. There has to be accountability on the part of the vendor.

I want to know what the hell they showed Bryan that he is agreeing with them. There is no way to honestly prove I used a robot player because I didn't. That is why I say the truth isn't important here. It is more important to realize that this is FRAUD on the biggest level. I am being cheated out of over a million dollars. Do you really think I didn't read their terms and conditions? Of course I did. Why would I jepordize my winnings over something so stupid. I can make my own decisions.

[amandajm]

Okay Pirate - i see now. Bryan has in your eyes ruled against you. I must admit it does look like that and await what Bryan has to say on this.

1.2 million dollars is A LOT of money in anyones book and deserves all sides of the story be told. Robots though is nonsense imo, as caruso alludes to..

My thoughts on robots? http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ighlight=robot

[GrandMaster]

The casino could legitimately complain if a player took a bonus and used the robot to play through the WR, but this is clearly not the case here. I have never heard of a Microgaming casino forbidding autoplay with bonuses, although I remember reading that their hold on BJ has been reduced, due to people playing better strategy.

There is another possibility, if the random number generator is not random enough and the robot can place the bet at the right 1/1000 second to increase the player's chance of winning. The problem here is, of course, not the robot but the weak RNG.

I would certainly like to know what evidence the casino has for claiming that the Pirateofc21 used a robot, and how it is supposed to have affected the outcome.