Mathematical Proof that English Harbour is cheating

**kengam** · 26th May 2006, 10:27 PM

with all due respect Bryan, I have been controlling myself as well as Spearmaster.

**spearmaster** · 26th May 2006, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by kengam

Why not ask them the truth? The truth should be in their double up logs which they have refused to release. You have been acting as judge with your threats of banning posters. We are not looking for how they cheated. We are looking for whether or not this was the first and only time they cheated. Your holy code will not tell you that no matter what kind of spin you put on it.

*YOU* are presuming to speak for everyone - but you do not speak for me. You are looking for whether or not this was the first time. I am looking to see whether this was intentional or not.

This is exactly why I am not interested in your own personal issue.

And if by "judge" you mean moderator, I already removed that perceived conflict of interest. If you got banned, or threatened with a ban, it was because you deserved it and had been warned previously, usually more than once. It is NOT because I don't agree with your opinions.

Now cut out the BS. Or perhaps BOTH of us will end up on vacation.

**spearmaster** · 26th May 2006, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by kengam

with all due respect Bryan, I have been controlling myself as well as Spearmaster.

What a load of crap - you have been attacking my integrity from day one - and exactly how many times did I attack yours?

Bryan, ban us both. I don't have time for this shit. Since I am not a moderator any more I feel as if the gloves are off... LMAO...

With all due respect... what a WIMP.

**kengam** · 26th May 2006, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by spearmaster

With all due respect... what a WIMP.

I find that statement an attack on my character. Please ban this guy as he is really hurting my lil feelings

**spearmaster** · 26th May 2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by kengam

I find that statement an attack on my character. Please ban this guy as he is really hurting my lil feelings

Aw poor baby - you can dish it out but you can't even take a little tap... how do you like my omnipotence now?

**Casinomeister** · 26th May 2006, 10:48 PM

Better yet, I just locked this thread until Monday morning Central European Time.

How do you like 'dem apples?

**Vesuvio** · 29th May 2006, 11:42 AM

Open for business?

**Casinomeister** · 29th May 2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Vesuvio

Open for business?

Yes, and Spear said he probably won't have anything until Tuesday sometime at the earliest.

I'm only opening the thread back up this morning because I said I would.

**Vesuvio** · 29th May 2006, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Yes, and Spear said he probably won't have anything until Tuesday sometime at the earliest.

I'm only opening the thread back up this morning because I said I would.

Fair enough. I think most of the considered comments here are assuming the contents of Spear's report (the code given to him would cause the results seen and might have been accidentally uploaded), so it's not going to invalidate the arguments or settle this issue - but it'll certainly be good to get it out on the table so the discussion can move on.

**Freudian** · 29th May 2006, 02:01 PM

Here are some questions the casino need to answer to start clearing their name. The code is pretty irrelevant since we don't even know if that was indeed the code running. And logs would be pointless since if they indeed are guilty of wrongdoing, modifying logs to cover it up would be easy.

1. Why did they issue a statement saying there was nothing wrong the day after they patched for the alleged bug?

2. Why didn't they have separate development environments for code that was going to go live and experimental code like this alleged bonus game?

3. How did this buggy code find its way into the code that went live?

4. Who made the decision to design a bonus game with a non-random card dealing and introduce it in a card game? Didn't they think it would seriously create doubt about the fairness of their card games?

5. Why didn't testing catch this?

6. How come the results for the doubling game normalized the day before the casino claimed to have automatically patched it?

7. How much has English Harbour/Vegas Technology paid Michael Shackleford in the past? How much do they pay him now?

I am sure I forgot a bunch of questions that are relevant. Feel free to add them to my list.