Mathematical Proof that English Harbour is cheating

[Simmo!]

Does it include Hot Pepper and Fire and Ice which appeared tobe fair? How was it that these casinos played fair but EH did not?

It would be interesting to see the Hot Pepper logs for the same period, but if it was a software error then they will reflect the same results.

Thought the Wizard tackled that one very quickly. Didn't expect to see results this quick

[AceMan76]

According to English Harbor problem was caused by a buggy software update on April 13, which was automatically corrected by a subsequent update on May 2.

I am a complete idiot when it comes to software and writing code, but why would you need to update the code that runs the RNG? I guess my question is, if the problem was caused by a buggy update, why the heck was the RNG code being updated in the first place?

[nafanny29]

The explanation from EH is clearly unsound. They claim that there was a bug in the software that was fixed by an automatic update, and previously denied that there was anything wrong with their software.

There is no such thing as an 'automatic' update. Computer code does not write itself, and cannot fix itself either. The code can only have been changed knowingly, and the fact that it was changed almost immediately after te problem was posted here is evidence that they were aware that the code was not fair; despite this they released a statement claiming that the game was fair, even after they had just changed the code that was rigged against the playe .

Although not ideal, it is not the end of the world for a casino to have a software 'problem' that they fix and compensate the player, but having denied that there was a probem having stealth fixed it just before claiming that with a sufficiently large sample the game would be fair, before it became clear that this explanation would not wash, is very difficult for them. Why change your software from biased to fair, and then deny that anything was wrong, pretending that nothing has been changed?

They used the honest mistake defence, which was their best option, but only after dishonestly first changing their software and then telling the world that it was fair, a claim they knew was false because they had just changed it. This fatally undermines their latest statement.

And let's not forget the question of why the game came to be rigged. They claim this was an accident. Given the circumstances it seems a duty that they provide a fuller explanation as to how this 'accidentally' came to pass. WHat was the code check in that led to it supposed to have done? They must give a more plausible explanation, although following the initial denial and sly change, things don't look too good for them.

Regarding the detail of the analysis, isnthis just for the English Harbour casino, or for all casinos? Does it include Hot Pepper and Fire and Ice which appeared tobe fair? How was it that these casinos played fair but EH did not?

I also think that there is MUCH more to this than we yet know.

One thing about this is that the double up is pretty straighfowward isnt it? 4 cards are dealt face down and you pick one and the program examines it, turns it over and you either win or lose. To misprogram that by accident I would think is impossable. You would have thought if it was a genuine error the program would either be letting you win every double up or none.

And another thing, was the software (when it was faulty ) picking lower cards from the available player choices to lose to the dealers card, or was it selecting a higher dealers card than average. I forgot to look at that when I ran my 200 doubles.

Anyway im not convinced it was an error at the moment, I cant see how it could have possably been given that the cards should be all random. I smell a rat.

[nektar4d]

Regarding the detail of the analysis, isnthis just for the English Harbour casino, or for all casinos? Does it include Hot Pepper and Fire and Ice which appeared tobe fair? How was it that these casinos played fair but EH did not?

OddsOn software is great.
As a software, it may have some "bugs" from time to time but at least gives "superior control" !


Who will start a poll pls with what readers and players believe about the situation?

[soflat]

April 13th, buggy software update at EH

April 28th, player thelawnet reports suspicious results from video poker at EH.

May 2nd Wizard contacted by CM and EH. Automatic software update at EH (update unrelated to VP doubling?).

May 3rd, EH tested the game and reported to CM that they found game fair.

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In OddOn's and EH's favor, they knew Wizard was going to audit their logs monthly, so why would they cheat?

[Linus]

It's unfortunate (for Odds On) that the bug affected doubling so dramatically.

If the malfunction had stopped royal flushes from being dealt, I doubt lawnet would ever have discovered it.

If it had busted double-downs a little more than normal, they probably would have been fine, as well.

Hopefully Odds On won't have more "bugs" in the future.

[spearmaster]

thelawnet, by "automatic" I think they meant "previously scheduled". And btw, they said "automatically corrected by an update", not "automatically updated".

kengam - I don't believe their software will record free-play results, so the results above should only be from real money play.

Everyone get RNG out of your head. RNGs do not get updated, nor can they be programmed to give out bad results. Algorithms which interpret the random number provided by the RNG can be misprogrammed, either unintentionally or deliberately.

It is clear that an algorithm was updated in both situations.

I have also identified one possible scenario where a bug could accidentally have entered the system, and I am awaiting the results of a further analysis, or better yet, an explanation from the software provider, preferably here in the forums.

However, this is the only possible scenario where I personally would believe that an unintentional error occurred. Because of this, I have not identified this scenario to the provider nor will I identify it here for the time being. Once I hear an explanation from the provider, I will say more about what I think.

[tim5ny]

OddsOn software is great.
As a software, it may have some "bugs" from time to time but at least gives "superior control" !

Superior control?

[AceMan76]

Everyone get RNG out of your head. RNGs do not get updated, nor can they be programmed to give out bad results. Algorithms which interpret the random number provided by the RNG can be misprogrammed, either unintentionally or deliberately.

Thank you for clearing this up for me. My next question would then be, why would the algorithm need to be updated for an existing game that is presumably running fine?

[spearmaster]

Thank you for clearing this up for me. My next question would then be, why would the algorithm need to be updated for an existing game that is presumably running fine?

Normally, it wouldn't get updated.

I will answer in more detail later but I don't want to compromise anything just yet, pending an answer from the developer.