losing someone else's money

[dreamtheatre]

A guy obtains the credit cards info and the identity data of the credit card holder . This way he has many stolen credit cards. And he has two friends who are pretty good poker players.

Then they open an account for the poor person . And transfer the money in this account to their account and then make the withdrawal.

I witnessed them do the chipdumping process (on one of the biggest poker networks). They played at two adjacent pcs. Both of them are very good poker players(the hacker just provides the credit cards he is not involved in the chipdumping process) They deposited 1000 usd from the stolen credit card. And in a short time the money was transferred from one to the other with 120 percent efficiency. When the session was over the guy who should lose had 200 usd in his account and the one who was supposed to win had an extra 1000. Then they played at other different tablees so that there would not be suspicion. The loser created a loose aggressive player image.

They withdrew the money wiht no diffuculty. But these guys made the transfer at a 5 player table. they knew each others hands so the other 3 players at the table were also cheated. If the poker network detects this incident will they pay back the loss of the other 3 players in the table?

[same_old]

Why why why!!

[silcnlayc]

I witnessed them do the chipdumping process (on one of the biggest poker networks

Why would you not report this immediately if you were suspicious at the get go? You are just as guilty as them if you did indeed winess it and did NOTHING.

If the poker network detects this incident will they pay back the loss of the other 3 players in the table?

Why would they? If you are referring to yourself being at this table (one of the 3) then, no you shouldn't be reimbursed. You should be banned IMO because you were in collusion with them by being silent and now you want your money back?

If i am reading this wrong apologies in advance but it seems you sat there knowingly, allowing this cheating to go on and how did you know they used a stolen credit card unless you were involved? And now want to be reimbursed for monies you dumped?

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[BingoT]

Report this immediately
What if it was your card that was used.
Would you be happy Not
You are guilty in knowing this is going on.

[RoyallyFlushed]

I don't understand why didnt report this. You obviously know the people the poker rooms and the tables. I don't play in poker rooms because I don't trust them, besides to me it's not real poker, I like to see the people in person and try to figure out their tells.

Anyway, I think you should report these people or a tleast tip them off anonymously if you are too scared. Im not sure he's one of the 3 people because if he was and he knows about it then he was probably compensated for it.

This upsets me because I love poker and I don't dare go in those rooms for this very reason

[BingoT]

I have heard some crazy things people do in poker rooms.
A group of people in the same location same room same house that have 4 or more playing and they all see what everyone has in the hand.and what they do is beat the other players.
I use to play a lot of poker online but now ill just wait to play poker at Foxwoods or The Mohegan Sun Casino.
Or if I know a group of people online that wants to get a game going that's cool too.Least you know who you are playing with.

[dreamtheatre]

the guy whose card was used, will do a chargeback and get his funds back.

the case is between three guys and a pokerroom. i dont feel sorry at all for the pokerrrom . i was just sorry for the other three players on the table where the chipdumping was being made.

none of the three are bad guys. sorry but i cannot let them go to prison by reporting them. i am a professional poker player .And clearly if someone cheats at my poker table i will feel terrible so i emphatised with the three other players. When i learned that the credit card holder would get his money back that was my only concern so that is why i started this tread.

i had nothing to do with anything i just watched the chipdumping from beginning to end .

[swampwitch]

Amazing. You have intimate knowledge of what was happening. You didn't inform the other players what was happening, and you didn't inform the poker room.
You, sir, are a colluder. You are a cheat. With your attitude, it would not surprise me in the least if you weren't part of this ring, and gained monetarily from the whole dirty business.
You say you are a professional player. This I doubt very much. You do have an ego the size of all outdoors if you really believe the readers and players in this forum would agree with your take on this situation.

IMO, you should be banned from all online poker.

[winbig]

the guy whose card was used, will do a chargeback and get his funds back.

the case is between three guys and a pokerroom. i dont feel sorry at all for the pokerrrom . i was just sorry for the other three players on the table where the chipdumping was being made.

none of the three are bad guys. sorry but i cannot let them go to prison by reporting them. i am a professional poker player .And clearly if someone cheats at my poker table i will feel terrible so i emphatised with the three other players. When i learned that the credit card holder would get his money back that was my only concern so that is why i started this tread.

i had nothing to do with anything i just watched the chipdumping from beginning to end .

Why would those 3 go to prison? Is it illegal for them to be playing poker where they live?

If so, then of course they're never going to see any of the money they lost. That'd be like someone here in the USA filing a complaint with the DoJ or whatever because a group such as Virtual was stiffing them for their money.

[swampwitch]

none of the three are bad guys. sorry but i cannot let them go to prison by reporting them.

Why would those 3 go to prison? Is it illegal for them to be playing poker where they live?

Sorry to butt in, but I believe the OP was talking here about the 3 asses...the guy with the stolen info, and the two others in this "ring".