accusation of cheating

**ace4suited** · 18th October 2006, 06:16 PM

I think the no language but english rule is a little harsh on non english speakers but if a player in a game that is english only players are within their rights to contact support and get their chat removed or get other actions taken.

As for the call - bluffing in a freeroll is very rarely a good play people will call with bellybuster straight draws and less. The "scanner" notion is nonsense online playing is actually much safer from that point of view than live play.

**tencardcharlie** · 18th October 2006, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by couplecraft

I'd love to meet someone who has folded a boat

Nice to meet you too

Originally Posted by couplecraft

Why would they openly mention cheating, even in Hungarian?

Yes, that certainly does not make sense. I occasionally see people talk about these 'scanners' and stuff - but of course it is just rubbish. If someone used some kind of cheating device they would be silent about it.

**couplecraft** · 20th October 2006, 10:42 AM

Charlie, please tell me of your experience folding a boat. I've never seen such a thing.

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**gerilege** · 20th October 2006, 02:31 PM

I'm a Hungarian poker player and a computer scientist and a native Hungarian speaker. You can be 100% sure that nothing bad happened. I don't even know how do you call such a specific "scanner" in Hungarian. It's sure that we don't have a separate word for that. If you have the logs, the word for original computer scanner is simply "szkenner" in Hungarian. But we never use this word for anything else than scanner in terms of a device for scanning documents. So the English speaking guy WAS SURELY WRONG , because he COULD NOT KNOW that the Hungarians are speaking about such a scanner. Even a native speaker in Hungarian doesn't know Hungarian words for anything else than a simple scanner. How could than a native English then realize that they were talking about such things (which would have been some phrase or kind a "workaround words" for the English term in Hungarian)?

I really hate anyway that some of the rookie Hungarian poker players chat in Hungarian. If you post the chat logs here or PM, I can tell you what they were talking about. If I have to guess, it was about scanning in documents for verification for some poker sites. It is always a problem for rookie Hungarian players, who participate on a freeroll.

**gerilege** · 20th October 2006, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by couplecraft

Charlie, please tell me of your experience folding a boat. I've never seen such a thing.

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You have 2c3c, flop is 2s,2d,Kh, turn is Kc. Turn/river fold is quite reasonable.

**couplecraft** · 20th October 2006, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by gerilege

You have 2c3c, flop is 2s,2d,Kh, turn is Kc. Turn/river fold is quite reasonable.

Sorry, I thought "boat" meant full house. But I can imagine having BB with 23o and then getting a spread of 22K3K where you'd be afraid of a K.

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**couplecraft** · 20th October 2006, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by gerilege

I'm a Hungarian poker player and a computer scientist and a native Hungarian speaker. You can be 100% sure that nothing bad happened. I don't even know how do you call such a specific "scanner" in Hungarian. It's sure that we don't have a separate word for that. If you have the logs, the word for original computer scanner is simply "szkenner" in Hungarian. But we never use this word for anything else than scanner in terms of a device for scanning documents. So the English speaking guy WAS SURELY WRONG , because he COULD NOT KNOW that the Hungarians are speaking about such a scanner. Even a native speaker in Hungarian doesn't know Hungarian words for anything else than a simple scanner. How could than a native English then realize that they were talking about such things (which would have been some phrase or kind a "workaround words" for the English term in Hungarian)?

I really hate anyway that some of the rookie Hungarian poker players chat in Hungarian. If you post the chat logs here or PM, I can tell you what they were talking about. If I have to guess, it was about scanning in documents for verification for some poker sites. It is always a problem for rookie Hungarian players, who participate on a freeroll.

Thanks for piping up. I don't recall anything even similar to "scanner" being said but I didn't keep the chat log. Wingows has yet to get back to me about their investigation. If they do I'll post here.

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