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Old 24th February 2006, 10:37 PM
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Cheaters Being Outed by Poker Sites.....

In the last few days 2 of the best known online poker players have been banned from many poker sites for playing with multiple accounts.

JJProdigy- had $180k taken from his account for playing under 2 names in the same tournament. He has subsequently been banned by Party and Pokerstars.

ZeeJustin- was found to have been playing large tournaments with 6 different accounts at the same time. All of his money in those accounts was confiscated and he was banned by Party and is under investigation by Stars.

There will be many more well known players exposed in the coming weeks i believe.

Kudos to the poker sites for trying to clean up the damage caused by these cheaters.
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Do you have any more detail on these, Paul?
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The JJProdigy situation has been detailed very heavily on the 2+2 forums. It's probably one if the most talked about episodes in the history of that forum(sorta like the Pirate here).


Edit: The ZeeJustin situation is detailed in the same place, MTT area.
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Jetset, go to http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=0#Post4856097

Also- http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=4785067&page=

This could have major repercussions on the Internet Gambling bill being discussed in US especially since one of the 2 kids is only 16 years old!! Not good i am afraid.
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In the last few days 2 of the best known online poker players have been banned from many poker sites for playing with multiple accounts.

JJProdigy- had $180k taken from his account for playing under 2 names in the same tournament. He has subsequently been banned by Party and Pokerstars.

ZeeJustin- was found to have been playing large tournaments with 6 different accounts at the same time. All of his money in those accounts was confiscated and he was banned by Party and is under investigation by Stars.
There will be many more well known players exposed in the coming weeks i believe.

Kudos to the poker sites for trying to clean up the damage caused by these cheaters.
Thanks for posting this, Paul. I am really shocked. These are purportedly well-known players, so they must have been around for a while and playing large tournaments. One had $180K confiscated and presumably he didn't accumulate that overnight. Why did it take sites like Pokerstars and Party so long to find out he had six different accounts all with the same IPO???

I visited the 2+2 MOAT (Mother Of All Threads) and there are probably good morsels of info here and there buried in it but i can't wade my way through it.

If this has been going on undetected for so long involving quite a few big name online players, you can just imagine how much collusion goes undetected which is a bit more difficult to detect than a guy playing the same tournament with 6 different accounts.
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The Poker Rooms were apparently well aware for a good while and never stopped it. Thereby there will be more. Alot more.
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Jetset, go to http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=0#Post4856097

Also- http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=4785067&page=

This could have major repercussions on the Internet Gambling bill being discussed in US especially since one of the 2 kids is only 16 years old!! Not good i am afraid.
Thanks again for this, Paul - it certainly is an interesting lead and I imagine all the networks will be on red alert and looking at their counter-measures again. The age of these guys is especially worrying, quite apart from their laissez faire attitude toward honesty.
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This scandal is really bugging me and i spent a lot of time mulling about it this evening. Just this evening i read an AP article about internet gambling in which Ayre from Bodog was quoted saying that there would be a lot of consolidations because smaller pokerrooms have a tough time surviving (not really a surprise for anyone to hear this) There's also a trend of going public. It might be tough to legally go after a pokerroom headquartered in Timbukto but quite easy once they are listed on a stock-exchange somewhere.

I suspect that the fall-out of this scandal will be much more stringent requirements for new players, such as mandatory ID documentation, and painful and slow withdrawals. And yes, it will play right in the hands of American legislators so keen on making online gambling illegal in the US. Not just out of fear of the money laundering but also the "laxity" of the online pokerrooms and the corrosive influence on minors who, as this scandal shows, pokerrooms have not been able to keep out, blablabla.
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This could have major repercussions on the Internet Gambling bill being discussed in US especially since one of the 2 kids is only 16 years old!! Not good i am afraid.
16? Sheesh. I guess it's too much to ask for online poker rooms/casinos to ask for ID up front, just like if you were to go to a b&m casino and looked underage. Until that happens, online gambling in the usa is going to be at risk bigtime.


Being realistic though, I doubt there will be any "Internet Police" preventing online gambling in the USA. There are some states that already have laws in place against gambling online, but I have never heard of anyone getting arrested for it.
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